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Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Show me the laptop that is as good or better than the new 15” MacBook Air at the same price. Needs the same or better specs, build quality, and local in-person support (i.e. a worldwide dense network of retail stores). Good luck!

Dell XPS? Thinkpad T15? If you pay for the Nvidia card you could even outperform the M2 Ultra for kicks and giggles.

And battery life, quietness and generates very little heat?

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Boggles the mind why people still fall for the iPad Pro as a serious work machine beyond writing meme. The fact that Final Cut launched on it recently and while its exporting you have to sit there leaving the app open you can't go do something else is the punchline of the decade for the lie that this is a serious machine. This is before we get into the comical evolution from "You just need the touchscreen" to "Actual…

> Actually the more I think about how good the M1 MacBook is it's actually a crime these beautiful processors were locked up in that abysmal form factor and forced to do Facebook and match-3 games instead of real work.

I feel the same, but for Apple's UI design. The fact that the entire silicon engineering team's achievements are being wiped out by Apple's UI fashionistas is a shame. These people will find a way to make it slow again. The entire system would feel 10x faster if all animation times were cutdown by half (from 150ms to 75ms for example).

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Show me the laptop that is as good or better than the new 15” MacBook Air at the same price. Needs the same or better specs, build quality, and local in-person support (i.e. a worldwide dense network of retail stores). Good luck!

Dell XPS? Thinkpad T15? If you pay for the Nvidia card you could even outperform the M2 Ultra for kicks and giggles.

Dell XPS spec’d to meet the 15” MacBook Air requires the nicer screen which makes it $2,000, the screen is higher resolution than the MBA but it’s 100 nits less bright. MacBook Air is $1,700 after adding memory and storage to meet the XPS. The MBA is $300 cheaper for a laptop that is thinner, the same or better specs in almost every category, miles better better build quality (plastic trash vs aluminum) and actually has a network of stores throughout the world. So nowhere close to the 15” MBA, but I appreciate you trying.

The T15 isn’t available so I’ll look at the T16. The cheapest T16 is $1,570. The comparable MacBook Air is $1,500. The T16 has a 300 nits low resolution screen, slow DDR4 RAM (didn’t know they made RAM this slow these days), and is made of cheap plastic. And again, no worldwide network of stores to support your device.

So you’ve really failed to come anywhere close to the specs, build quality or support system of a MacBook. And this is without considering the huge advantages you get with Apple silicon over intel.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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I owned a Surface Go for two days before getting an iPad Mini. What made me return it was the file save dialog. I bought a device to read and doodle on, two things I used to do on paper. I browse through my sketches by turning pages, and finish the activity by closing the (note)book. Procreate and Google Play Books work similarly. After a whole day of installing updates and removing bloatware, the Surface wanted me t…

What app did you tried on Surface? OneNote works without treating files. (as it's also available on iPad)

I tried a few. OneNote was good for notes but not for art. None of them felt as good as their iPad counterparts, plus I had to deal with Windows.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Well, yeah -- anything involving text on iOS is far from optimal, so buying an iPad Pro for: email, blogging, creative writing, memo-writing for work, working in spreadsheets, document creation in general; is a mistake. I read a commentary years back about Google's social efforts. The author blamed Google's failings on the author's assumption that no one at Google actually used their social products. For comparison,…

> 2. God help you if the insertion point is just a character or two away from where you need it: you either have to do the long-press on the keyboard, then carefully drag to correct it, or tap somewhere else completely and then tap where you want it. I don't know if anyone remembers but back in 2012ish there was a jailbreak tweak in Cydia that allowed you to move the cursor by swiping on your keyboard. It was really…

> I wish apple let you switch between "swipe to type" and "swipe to move cursor".

Unsure if you know: you can press and hold the space bar to enable text navigation by swiping.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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If it is only "very nearly", wouldn't something larger like an s8 ultra be better? Also "by a mile" is a stretch. It might be better but all $1000+ tablets are reasonably close enough to be happy with any of them.

I've used a lot of Android tablets, low end to high, and developed software for them. They're awful. Crashy, glitchy, bad battery life. I don't think we'll see a true iPad competitor until/unless a new OS enters the market—Android's had a long time to get its shit together, and evidently just can't. Wish someone would give it a shot, because I'd love to see that market better-served.

Yeah, yeah and you literally died. This is HN and not reddit, you are better than that.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Im Carlos from Blink Shell, mentioned in a few comments here. Dropped this comment in the thread but thought about leaving my 2c here too as this is something I have been thinking about a lot. Usage and expectations have been changing a lot for these devices: - At first (iPad2 & 3 years), for those who already had remote machines of some kind, the goal was to simply have a decent terminal on mobile devices to connect…

I think Apple would rather people buy a MacBook and an iPad rather than just an iPad and so they've limited it to make that happen even if it means selling less iPads to begin with. They don't really seem to want to make great standalone products but want everything to be tied together which is why even doing something as simple as adding a single MP3 to your music library on an iPad is effectively impossible.

Some of what they did with the iPad was a response to the success of the Microsoft Surface and I don't think it's something they actually wanted to do.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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> Boggles the mind why people still fall for the iPad Pro as a serious work machine beyond writing meme. The form factor is incredible. I did this a few years ago, used iPad+vps for personal work. As a backend developer mostly, it was not hard. Then had to switch back as I got into gamedev but miss the form factor of iPad so much. For some reason, it seemed to inspire me at odd hours and places to code. Now I am back…

Yeah, Microsoft Surface got this right. Having a touch screen on a laptop is great. I don’t do any coding on my iPad, but I got a knockoff Magic Keyboard and it’s pretty great. The real thing isn’t worth it, since it puts you into laptop price category, and you’re better off buying a low end laptop.

It seems a lot easier to put a touch screen on a laptop. Mine has one, and it's a totally normal laptop.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Disclaimer I code for the web, so I wouldn't be affected by the SwiftUI part. Trying to make the iPad thing work for almost 10 years, I finally gave up and bought a Surface Pro (7 first, and upgraded to 8). People use to joke about the length iPad user go to execute simple tasks. Like logging to a remote server to reboot it. You can do it on an iPad, you just need an SSH app, share your keys with it, and you're done.…

I've been doing development work using Surface Pros since version 4. They are not perfect, but they do the job (for me at least) better than anything else.
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