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The Military Recruiting Crisis: Even Veterans Don’t Want Their Children to Join

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Re: The Military Recruiting Crisis: Even Veterans Don’t Want Their Children to Join

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If my kids wanted to join the military, I would support them. Especially the Navy; while one can (and does) say that the American military is the strongest military of all times, in terms of greatness in battle, the Army does not have a lot to show (no American general cracks the top 10). The Navy can boast Midway. And can be proud with Nimitz, probably the greatest admiral ever, Nelson included. So, why would I disc…

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Re: The Military Recruiting Crisis: Even Veterans Don’t Want Their Children to Join

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If my kids wanted to join the military, I would support them. Especially the Navy; while one can (and does) say that the American military is the strongest military of all times, in terms of greatness in battle, the Army does not have a lot to show (no American general cracks the top 10). The Navy can boast Midway. And can be proud with Nimitz, probably the greatest admiral ever, Nelson included. So, why would I disc…

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What do you define as the 'warrior class'?

Re: The Military Recruiting Crisis: Even Veterans Don’t Want Their Children to Join

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They've already found a solution: If your own citizens refuse to serve the military-industrial complex, then simply use foreigners:

Join the military, become a US citizen - https://apnews.com/article/army-air-force-recruiting-shortfa...

And the police: Bill to allow noncitizens to become Illinois police officers heads to governor’s desk - https://www.mystateline.com/news/local-news/bill-to-allow-no...

In addition to helping hit military recruitment targets, they also have less attachment to the American people, so they're less likely to revolt if they were deployed domestically.

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Yes. The US military used to have a defensive function toward western people, culture, morals and values.

Not any longer, which is one of the reasons why today there are many things which I am not free to criticise or satirise, and have to use anonymous public forums.

Re: The Military Recruiting Crisis: Even Veterans Don’t Want Their Children to Join

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Why would anyone want to send their children to die in pointless wars of a regime that hates them and everything they stand for?

If my kids wanted to join the military, I would support them. Especially the Navy; while one can (and does) say that the American military is the strongest military of all times, in terms of greatness in battle, the Army does not have a lot to show (no American general cracks the top 10). The Navy can boast Midway. And can be proud with Nimitz, probably the greatest admiral ever, Nelson included. So, why would I disc…

> Piece of paper that would be worth less than a piece of toilet paper, if not for the US military.

After WWII, only a tiny minority of wars fought by the US were in self-defense. Most of the time the military was on foreign soil of countries that never attacked the US. The most their justifications amounted to were terrorist attacks, to which it responded with full invasions that left millions dead.

It took half a century, but people are just not buying "we have to fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here" anymore.

If you used the same threshold for what justifies an invasion against the US, as the US does to other countries.. well, you wouldn't mind Chinese drones and bombers flying overhead, liberating you, would you? It's either that, or their constitution becomes worthless.

Re: The Military Recruiting Crisis: Even Veterans Don’t Want Their Children to Join

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Ancient Rome had this problem, which it 'solved' by selectively permitting various tribes to pass the limes (border) on exchange for military service. If the US is indeed an empire, it may choose this option. Unfortunately, it did not end well for Rome, althiugh it worked for a while.

I served a long time ago and there were several immigrants in boot-camp with me. A couple of them barely spoke english but they managed to follow instructions just as well as everyone else so I guess it worked out.

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Ancient Rome had this problem, which it 'solved' by selectively permitting various tribes to pass the limes (border) on exchange for military service. If the US is indeed an empire, it may choose this option. Unfortunately, it did not end well for Rome, althiugh it worked for a while.

Why would somebody want to die just because some rich people sell more products (guns ) and become richer ?

What are you implying, that war is some kind of racket?

Re: The Military Recruiting Crisis: Even Veterans Don’t Want Their Children to Join

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What do you define as the 'warrior class'?

The ones who used to be willing to lay down their lives for honour and the love of their people and homeland, and who now see military service to the regime as futile and even self-defeating.
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