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YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by tcfhgj »

acomjean wrote: post #99

I mean they want you to subscribe to YouTube premium. At least they’re being honest about this and give you the option. I have a few issues with google but this isn’t one (After being forced to spend many hours upgrading to google analytics rev 4….) It’s expensive, but I’ve done it, but it also includes YouTube music which I like.

You can pay a overly expensive fee, but you still won't have an ad free experience, since in-video ads aren't removed.

ReVanced is the only option I know so far.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by peddling-brink »

midoridensha wrote: post #130
garciasn wrote: post #83

From the article: >“YouTube’s ad-supported model supports a diverse ecosystem of creators, and provides billions of people globally access to content for free with ads,” the company’s statement says. Let's at least be 100% honest with everyone and stop with the disingenuous garbage: 1. Ad-blocker usage is roughly 25-30% of US users. 2. The average YouTube content creator makes less than 0.02 per ad view and thus why…

>3. Google made nearly $70 billion in Q1; they're not hurting at all, especially their executives. This is disgusting. Google's executives do an incredible amount of valuable work, easily thousands of times more than other employees, and deserve rich compensation packages. People need to be willing to pay a lot for Premium, or watch more ads, so that these executives can afford bigger yachts. Why do you hate rich peo…

Not me, I fully support billionaires in yachts. I think they should all have yachts and spend lots of time with the exuberant aquatic wildlife off the Iberian coast.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by wewxjfq »

xboxnolifes wrote: post #139
sircastor wrote: post #115

So YouTube is going to make it impossible to watch without ads. Reddit's communities are going dark because Reddit (essentially) wants more ad revenue. Facebook and Instagram have been plastered with ads for longer than they haven't. And we're just a short hop from ads being "Attention required" with eyeballs tracked. I wonder if there's a possibility that this will shake Youtube from it's dominance.

> So YouTube is going to make it impossible to watch without ads. There is an option.

Everything will have ads eventually. Capitalism doesn't leave money on the table.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by weeblewobble »

sircastor wrote: post #115

So YouTube is going to make it impossible to watch without ads. Reddit's communities are going dark because Reddit (essentially) wants more ad revenue. Facebook and Instagram have been plastered with ads for longer than they haven't. And we're just a short hop from ads being "Attention required" with eyeballs tracked. I wonder if there's a possibility that this will shake Youtube from it's dominance.

Nah Reddit is pretty much back to normal. The protest is over.

There are a few big subreddits like r/interestingasfuck that are still closed, but these are more like meme channels than communities. People can just get the same dozen gifs a day from r/damnthatsinteresting, r/whoadude, etc.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by Corrado »

tdeck wrote: post #127
RandomBK wrote: post #105

I feel this was the inevitable outcome of the increased availability/popularity/awareness of ad blockers - a tragedy of the commons scenario that's set us on an escalating feedback loop that won't end well for anyone involved. EDIT: I do wonder if the price point of youtube premium is too high to capture an audience that simply doesn't want ads but doesn't care about any other features. $6/mo feels higher than the ty…

YouTube brought this on themselves by ratcheting up the ads like crazy. Back in the day I preferred YT because they were one of the only video sites that didn't have preroll ads. YouTube used to basically have adsense ads and little banners below the video for years. Unobtrusive and I didn't mind them at all. Then they added postroll ads. Then preroll ads. Then midroll ads. With these ads I find YouTube unusable for…

Ok, I thought it was just me. For the past several weeks I've noticed a marked uptick in ADs on YouTube. Just last night I was watching a short (~5min) video on how to clay bar your car and there were almost more ADs than content. I even completed the survey before the video thinking that would buy me some time. Nope!

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by tommiegannert »

goda90 wrote: post #109

YouTube needs a history-less mode. I want to watch random videos without them impacting my recommendations. I have Premium, but I'll use ad blocker in a private browsing session specifically for this.

If I go to https://www.youtube.com/feed/history, I can hit "Pause watch history". Isn't that enough?

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by shmde »

goda90 wrote: post #109

YouTube needs a history-less mode. I want to watch random videos without them impacting my recommendations. I have Premium, but I'll use ad blocker in a private browsing session specifically for this.

YouTube without recommendations is absolute pure cancer. On chrome desktop there is an option to delete cookie everytime you close browser. That resets your recommendation history.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by shmde »

impissedoff1 wrote: post #125
atonse wrote: post #59

Please do it, YouTube. I need something to break my YouTube addiction and this’ll do it. I’ll just buy a no-ads kindle and read like an old man.

Stop supporting drm, get the better kobo

You can jailbreak Kindle.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Post by midoridensha »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #29

As someone who has no "special love" for YouTube, I feel like the equation for YouTube is different for me that what they have in mind. YouTube chose to host a public mode of displaying videos that someone in a third world country made or Linus Sebastian made. As long as they don't put everything behind Netflix style login, I will fight tooth and nail with UBO. I don't care about "ethics" of ad blockers. If its publi…

> If its public, I will do what I darn want. Want to stop me, well put it behind a paywall.

The ethics are pretty clear I think: if I navigate with my browser to YouTube, or any site with ads, I'm able to see the content, plus annoying ads. I don't have to watch the ads: I can use an ad-blocker to tell my browser to not render those ads. The site has every right to serve me HTML/JS/video however they wish, but they have no right to tell me what to do with that data. If I want to ignore part of it, that's my right, and if I use automated means to ignore selected parts, that's also my right. If they want to spend massive resources trying to figure out ways to get around my automated means, or to detect my ad-blocker and refuse to send me data, they can do that too, but at what cost?

But if they want to avoid this arms race of ad-blocking, they can just do what Netflix does: require payment and an account to get in.

As for paywalls, those are really the same thing as ads usually: they load the article, then use JS to block it. You can block the JS and read the article.

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