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Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by Freak_NL »

_trackno5 wrote: post #25

Your best bet is probably a Pixel with something like GrapheneOS or CalyxOS on it. Android manufacturers suck in terms of long term support. Samsung offers the longest support, but their phones are full of bloat. and they recently passed some ToC updates that prevent you from suing them which I find a super anti-consumer move. If you can compromise on long term support and don’t care much about photos, the Asus Zenfo…

A Pixel with GrapheneOS works well for me. It seems like the best compromise at the moment.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by masklinn »

Daegalus wrote: post #10

The Pixel is the closest. The reason you don't see long term support on Android is because of Qualcomm. Qualcomm wants manufacturers to build on new chips, so they deprecate older chips and stop support. Most manufacturers don't want to hire kernel and hardware devs. Samsung can pull off longer support because of Exynos and they have a lot of inhouse expertise to extend support on old Qualcomm chips. It's all money.…

> Apple can do it because they lock you into their walled garden where they can double and triple dip on getting your money.

Nonsense.

It’s because they have all the expertise in-house anyway, they get extremely good terms due to their weight and negotiation, and they figure if you don’t change phone now you might do so next year and they’ll get your money anyway. There’s no brand loyalty on the Android side, and fostering it seems impossible (even brand recognition efforts don’t seem to do much).

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by laktak »

neilv wrote: post #40

At this time, I'd get a device on which I can install GrapheneOS: https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices Note that the particular device unit (not model) must have an unlockable bootloader (so, probably not a unit that was solid by a carrier that disables this): https://grapheneos.org/install/web#enabling-oem-unlocking

Can you run normal banking apps on graphne?

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by Chatter9220 »

laktak wrote: post #44
neilv wrote: post #40

At this time, I'd get a device on which I can install GrapheneOS: https://grapheneos.org/faq#recommended-devices Note that the particular device unit (not model) must have an unlockable bootloader (so, probably not a unit that was solid by a carrier that disables this): https://grapheneos.org/install/web#enabling-oem-unlocking

Can you run normal banking apps on graphne?

Yes you can! I do a lot of banking on GrapheneOS.

You might want to check this site out to see if your bank app works though: https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compa...

Even if your app isn't listed there, there's still a chance that it'll work. Mine isn't listed on that site, but it still works with no issues.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by fomine3 »

bobsmooth wrote: post #18
sphars wrote: post #5

Honestly, the Pixel phones are probably the best compromise between your requirements. While Samsung gets slightly longer support, the bloatware, IMO, is just too much (depends on your definition of bloatware though). Plus the Pixels are first for latest Android and are generally well-supported with third-party ROMs (Lineage, Graphene, AOSP, etc). So my suggestion is the Pixels, (the "a" series for a less expensive c…

I like a lot of the built-in Samsung apps.

In other words, Stock Android still isn't great. Samsung sometimes makes it better.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by dainiusse »

iExploder wrote: post #34
scscsc wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have just seen someone using such a phone. It looks good, just a tiny bit bulky. Not sure on how it will do long term. My OnePlus has been serving me well for more than 3 years now.

some people dont mind a tiny bit of bulk, some people dont mind kids mining cobalt barehanded and getting cancer in the process

This is no argument. Both of them have batteries and both pose the same risks.

Re: Ask HN: Stock Android phone free of bloatware?

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

scscsc wrote: post #17
stuckinadrawer wrote: post #13

If you are in Europe you could take a look at the Fairphone 4. It's designed to last long and it's repairable as well.

I have just seen someone using such a phone. It looks good, just a tiny bit bulky. Not sure on how it will do long term. My OnePlus has been serving me well for more than 3 years now.

> Not sure on how it will do long term.

Haven't they been around long enough now to answer that?

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