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Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Post by realusername »

raverbashing wrote: post #115
Donckele wrote: post #104

I think I have the first or second gen ipad. For some years now the OS and apps are frozen in time. I have basically some old games and the old safari browser. The old safari is slow and, can you believe it, HN does not fully function! Now, we all know the hardware is premium and this device would probably run linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream. But we can only dream right? WTF? Apple won’t…

> hardware is premium and this device would probably run linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream No, no it wouldnt. Because between Wayland infighting and DE infighting and what not and UX quirks and more blah blah blah it would run like molasses Just see how well a touchpad works on linux.

Maybe Linux DEs would work better on touch devices if we could install them in the first place...

Right now you either have niche near-obsolete devices which are unlocked, mainstream locked devices or mainstream unlocked but technically messy.

So why and how to improve something you can't install?

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Post by beefield »

golergka wrote: post #127
Donckele wrote: post #104

I think I have the first or second gen ipad. For some years now the OS and apps are frozen in time. I have basically some old games and the old safari browser. The old safari is slow and, can you believe it, HN does not fully function! Now, we all know the hardware is premium and this device would probably run linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream. But we can only dream right? WTF? Apple won’t…

For 99% of the users, “human creativity” would mean installing malware.

Hiding the option to allow "human creativity" behind two layers of menu hierarchy would mean 99% of users would never allow it.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Post by letrowekwel »

max51 wrote: post #128
Donckele wrote: post #104

I think I have the first or second gen ipad. For some years now the OS and apps are frozen in time. I have basically some old games and the old safari browser. The old safari is slow and, can you believe it, HN does not fully function! Now, we all know the hardware is premium and this device would probably run linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream. But we can only dream right? WTF? Apple won’t…

>linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream linux distros have not yet managed to get proper interface for mouse+keyboard. Linux desktop is still a shitshow. They can't even provide an experience as good as what windows was doing back in the XP era. Even if Apple allowed alternative OS, I doubt linus would be good on it.

I guess you last tried Linux on desktop in XP era. Choose the right distro and it's perfectly fine, much better than Win 10 / 11 and fairly similar to XP.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Post by Donckele »

jrmg wrote: post #129
Donckele wrote: post #104

I think I have the first or second gen ipad. For some years now the OS and apps are frozen in time. I have basically some old games and the old safari browser. The old safari is slow and, can you believe it, HN does not fully function! Now, we all know the hardware is premium and this device would probably run linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream. But we can only dream right? WTF? Apple won’t…

The old safari is slow and, can you believe it, HN does not fully function! Now, we all know the hardware is premium and this device would probably run linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream. But we can only dream right? Safari is not known for being slow. That machine is _old_. The iPad was released in 2010 - 13 years ago. And even when new it was substantially slower than contemporary PCs or M…

Nah. I have older netbooks (remember them?) and they are still more usable (with linux) than my old ipad.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Post by piva00 »

behnamoh wrote: post #53
wlesieutre wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If apps are still handling files that way instead of being able to open documents from anywhere in your local files, iCloud Drive, it’s on the developer. Hasn’t been the case for years that this is the way files work, you should be able to save them to your Downloads folder (or elsewhere) and open them in whichever app you want. Give PDF Viewer a look if you want better file handling: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pd…

That further proves my point about iOS/iPadOS's limitations. Why can't files be handled like on Linux/Windows/Android/macOS/etc. without having to use iCloud? Edit: Goodnotes and Notability also have this annoyance.

You don't need iCloud, in the Files app you explicitly have "iCloud Drive" and "On My " as top-level root directories to save files, you can maintain everything local as you wish...

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Post by realusername »

max51 wrote: post #128
Donckele wrote: post #104

I think I have the first or second gen ipad. For some years now the OS and apps are frozen in time. I have basically some old games and the old safari browser. The old safari is slow and, can you believe it, HN does not fully function! Now, we all know the hardware is premium and this device would probably run linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream. But we can only dream right? WTF? Apple won’t…

>linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream linux distros have not yet managed to get proper interface for mouse+keyboard. Linux desktop is still a shitshow. They can't even provide an experience as good as what windows was doing back in the XP era. Even if Apple allowed alternative OS, I doubt linus would be good on it.

There's no issues whatsoever with mouse+keyboard interfaces on mainstream distros nowadays.

I'm using PopOS personally and I encourage you to try it.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Post by Donckele »

max51 wrote: post #128
Donckele wrote: post #104

I think I have the first or second gen ipad. For some years now the OS and apps are frozen in time. I have basically some old games and the old safari browser. The old safari is slow and, can you believe it, HN does not fully function! Now, we all know the hardware is premium and this device would probably run linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream. But we can only dream right? WTF? Apple won’t…

>linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream linux distros have not yet managed to get proper interface for mouse+keyboard. Linux desktop is still a shitshow. They can't even provide an experience as good as what windows was doing back in the XP era. Even if Apple allowed alternative OS, I doubt linus would be good on it.

Ha ha. That never gets old.

You know my XFCE is way better than the latest Windows 11 or macOS whatever.

Sure, I don’t have an instagram app that controls my desktop background but I don’t give a shit about that.

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Post by slow_typist »

max51 wrote: post #128
Donckele wrote: post #104

I think I have the first or second gen ipad. For some years now the OS and apps are frozen in time. I have basically some old games and the old safari browser. The old safari is slow and, can you believe it, HN does not fully function! Now, we all know the hardware is premium and this device would probably run linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream. But we can only dream right? WTF? Apple won’t…

>linux very smoothly and the touch interface would be a dream linux distros have not yet managed to get proper interface for mouse+keyboard. Linux desktop is still a shitshow. They can't even provide an experience as good as what windows was doing back in the XP era. Even if Apple allowed alternative OS, I doubt linus would be good on it.

Even in the XP era the Linux desktop experience was way better. Windows behaves consistently inconsistent and destroys productivity instead of staying out of my way. Now, in a business environment, add network drives and endpoint protection and see where you end up …

Re: Buying an iPad Pro for coding was a mistake

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Post by JodieBenitez »

agnosticmantis wrote: post #79
sublinear wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or, just get any laptop really. There's nothing special about a Mac unless you need to do native development for Apple devices, and I'd suggest a Mac Mini for that.

I haven’t used a Linux laptop in a while. Is there any that’s competitive to MBP M2 in terms of processing power and battery life? I’ve been working on an MBP M1 for ~1 years now and I’ve yet to hear the fan working or feel the heat (to be fair, it’s a work laptop and most development happens in the cloud). If only for this reason I find it hard to buy anything other than MBPs for work, unfortunately.

> Is there any that’s competitive to MBP M2 in terms of processing power and battery life?

Sadly, nope. And I'm not even on a MBP M2, just a maxed out MBA M1, The best laptop I ever had. Processing power is more than enough for what I develop, and after more than two years I can still easily work my day with a single charge. Meanwhile, coworkers suffer with Dell laptops running different Linux distros: power management problems, battery life is tiny, fans blowing like they're hoovers. Oh... and they all have more expensive laptops than me.

But Apple bad. Not professional. Or so they say.

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