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YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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Strange move, people use adblockers for a reason, 2-3 unskipable bs ads. Instead better limit quality to 480/720p. This way they'll save money for traffic. No adblocker?, Can go up to 1080p. Yt premium?, Welkome to 4k. Yt premium+?, Welcome to >8k

Its not worth it. You don't watch YouTube videos for the fancy graphics, you listen to it for the commentary with some visual guides. 480p is more than enough for most

At least 720p if a screencast is involved (educational videos). 480p screen text often becomes nearly unreadable mush.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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post #109

YouTube needs a history-less mode. I want to watch random videos without them impacting my recommendations. I have Premium, but I'll use ad blocker in a private browsing session specifically for this.

As far as I understand it, you can you set it that way by disabling activity tracking here https://myactivity.google.com/product/youtube

Some of my recommendations are based on my subscriptions (but only directly), others are just random things based on my location and language.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#133

I mean they want you to subscribe to YouTube premium. At least they’re being honest about this and give you the option. I have a few issues with google but this isn’t one (After being forced to spend many hours upgrading to google analytics rev 4….) It’s expensive, but I’ve done it, but it also includes YouTube music which I like.

I found YouTube Music surprisingly full-fledged. The library is not as complete as Spotify or Apple Music of course, but, you also get the user uploads, which is a much more reliable resource for those few odd tracks.

With Premium you also get to minimize the YouTube app on the phone. It's nice for talks and discussions that are not uploaded as podcasts.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#134

From the article: >“YouTube’s ad-supported model supports a diverse ecosystem of creators, and provides billions of people globally access to content for free with ads,” the company’s statement says. Let's at least be 100% honest with everyone and stop with the disingenuous garbage: 1. Ad-blocker usage is roughly 25-30% of US users. 2. The average YouTube content creator makes less than 0.02 per ad view and thus why…

Considering that even the FBI recommends [0] using one fir security, no surprise.

[0] https://www.pcmag.com/news/fbi-recommends-installing-an-ad-b...

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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post #4

YouTube premium family is best value for money for all streaming services. Just don’t waste time on adblocking, as it works reliably only on desktop. I used ublock and it was more or less cuccessfully fighting ads on desktop, but they still were present on phone (new pipe just sucks, and I moved to iPhone anyways), iPad, Xbox and tv. Premium removed all of them. Also gave downloads for offline viewing. I still use sp…

After Elsagate, I am flabbergasted any parent would trust YouTube kids to show appropriate content. Even one that works for Google.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#136

This is a rather disturbing move to me, as I am a YouTube addict and adblocker user. I use NextDNS, a DNS-based service that's like your own PiHole in the cloud. It is sometimes tricky for me to disable adblocking! There are a couple of approaches. Resetting my DNS servers to defaults is disruptive and error-prone; it's a non-starter. I find it peculiar that there is no knob on NextDNS that says "disable blocking fea…

Have you considered just paying for something that you use a lot?

If I had to pay for all of the web platforms I use (on top of paying for internet access to begin with) on a daily basis I would have no disposable income. And I'm not ready to live in a world with even more micro micro-transactions. I don't think the world is economically capable of supporting the web the way big tech companies wish to be supported if they couldn't continue just selling our harvested data alone.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#137
I had a YouTube Premium family plan (US) for awhile because I don't want my family to see ads. The problem is that I need to use a VPN all the time for it to work because I live outside the US. That gets cumbersome... so I cancelled it and use ad blockers and a rooted LG TV for now.

In the modern world there are so many people that are citizens some place, but work or revel often in other places. These kind of restrictions are a nuisance.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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post #120

So YouTube is going to make it impossible to watch without ads. Reddit's communities are going dark because Reddit (essentially) wants more ad revenue. Facebook and Instagram have been plastered with ads for longer than they haven't. And we're just a short hop from ads being "Attention required" with eyeballs tracked. I wonder if there's a possibility that this will shake Youtube from it's dominance.

Reminds me of 'PLEASE DRINK VERIFICATION CAN' copypasta Ads are truly a cancer on human culture, I hope society decides to wage a war on them soon.

And replace them with what? Direct payment options?

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#139

So YouTube is going to make it impossible to watch without ads. Reddit's communities are going dark because Reddit (essentially) wants more ad revenue. Facebook and Instagram have been plastered with ads for longer than they haven't. And we're just a short hop from ads being "Attention required" with eyeballs tracked. I wonder if there's a possibility that this will shake Youtube from it's dominance.

> So YouTube is going to make it impossible to watch without ads.

There is an option.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

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post #127

I feel this was the inevitable outcome of the increased availability/popularity/awareness of ad blockers - a tragedy of the commons scenario that's set us on an escalating feedback loop that won't end well for anyone involved. EDIT: I do wonder if the price point of youtube premium is too high to capture an audience that simply doesn't want ads but doesn't care about any other features. $6/mo feels higher than the ty…

YouTube brought this on themselves by ratcheting up the ads like crazy. Back in the day I preferred YT because they were one of the only video sites that didn't have preroll ads. YouTube used to basically have adsense ads and little banners below the video for years. Unobtrusive and I didn't mind them at all. Then they added postroll ads. Then preroll ads. Then midroll ads. With these ads I find YouTube unusable for…

yes, recently YT is just becoming extremely sh!tty.
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