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Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#91
post #75

Can't blame Google for finally getting to the point of doing this. There's probably a lot of extra money left on the table because of ad blockers. YouTube isn't a public service. You can either pay the $12/mo for Premium for no ads and other perks or watch ads to subsidize the site.

or you can just block it, atleast for now. an option that many choose to make use of :)

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#92

Strange move, people use adblockers for a reason, 2-3 unskipable bs ads. Instead better limit quality to 480/720p. This way they'll save money for traffic. No adblocker?, Can go up to 1080p. Yt premium?, Welkome to 4k. Yt premium+?, Welcome to >8k

Its not worth it. You don't watch YouTube videos for the fancy graphics, you listen to it for the commentary with some visual guides. 480p is more than enough for most

I watch a lot of gaming videos or instructional videos that benefit from better resolution when viewing on my iPad. It is beyond aggravating I can't set them to at least 1024 by default.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#93

Strange move, people use adblockers for a reason, 2-3 unskipable bs ads. Instead better limit quality to 480/720p. This way they'll save money for traffic. No adblocker?, Can go up to 1080p. Yt premium?, Welkome to 4k. Yt premium+?, Welcome to >8k

Its not worth it. You don't watch YouTube videos for the fancy graphics, you listen to it for the commentary with some visual guides. 480p is more than enough for most

You might not, but there’s a ton of great content where the quality is very noticeable – anything related to nature, astronomy, sports, the tons of niche genres which involve looking at real world things in detail like rail fans, building/architecture fans, bird watchers, etc. is really unpleasant to watch at 480p. That’s the size of an iPad icon!

Stuff like conference talks, of course, really don’t matter but there’s so much material that no generalization won’t be inaccurate for millions of watchers.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#94

The primary reason I use an adblocker is to prevent malware / viruses. I would be more accepting of ads in general if: 1 - they were all served from the primary websites server - eg yahoo blaming third party ad servers for injecting virus scripts and taking no responsibility is not okay with me. 2 - I had easy choices to block ads for things like gambling and alcohol at the ip level, not just browser level. 3 - no fl…

Yeah, I really want one of those ethical ad programs to go somewhere – limit the JavaScript substantially and serve everything first party, use Cloudflare/Apple’s PAT scheme to assert real user presence vs. spoofing, etc. The problem is that advertisers really want cross domain tracking so we really need tracking protection to become popular enough that they’re willing to give up that dream, and that’s not going to happen with Chrome.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#95

This is a rather disturbing move to me, as I am a YouTube addict and adblocker user. I use NextDNS, a DNS-based service that's like your own PiHole in the cloud. It is sometimes tricky for me to disable adblocking! There are a couple of approaches. Resetting my DNS servers to defaults is disruptive and error-prone; it's a non-starter. I find it peculiar that there is no knob on NextDNS that says "disable blocking fea…

Have you considered just paying for something that you use a lot?

I did this. I was skeptical at first but it's such a big qol improvement. I got a family plan so now that's what I bring to the streaming service exchange with the family and they love me for it

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#96
post #61

Could you, in theory, stream a “video” of a website to the user and handle only the input (mouse, keybord) from the user? The user would then not interact with a website but with a “video” where everything is rendered server side thus making it impossible to block any ads.

You can then try to calculate how much more ad time would be needed to cover the cost of pulling over that move.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#97

This is a rather disturbing move to me, as I am a YouTube addict and adblocker user. I use NextDNS, a DNS-based service that's like your own PiHole in the cloud. It is sometimes tricky for me to disable adblocking! There are a couple of approaches. Resetting my DNS servers to defaults is disruptive and error-prone; it's a non-starter. I find it peculiar that there is no knob on NextDNS that says "disable blocking fea…

Have you considered just paying for something that you use a lot?

> Have you considered just paying for something that you use a lot?

Where did I say that I do not pay for it?

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#98
Two things spring to mind: My experience with a YouTube premium trial ended immediately upon being told that I couldn't play music in a second place at the same time. And ad-blocking is part of my security posture.

I have plenty of local storage. Moving forward, maybe good videos won't just go into a playlist with the assumption that YouTube will continue to be available.

Re: YouTube is testing a more aggressive approach against ad blockers

#99
I mean they want you to subscribe to YouTube premium. At least they’re being honest about this and give you the option. I have a few issues with google but this isn’t one (After being forced to spend many hours upgrading to google analytics rev 4….)

It’s expensive, but I’ve done it, but it also includes YouTube music which I like.

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