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Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

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Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

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Media in Canada is in pretty dire straits right now. It looks like one of the last left-ish leaning papers (Toronto Star) is about to be gobbled up by post media. A huge swath of broadcast news media is owned by just one company, Bell which predictably leads to stories like "Top Bell Media executive urged CTV to avoid ‘negative spin’ on coverage of parent company". Plus the current batch of conservative leaders (PP,…

> all have an axe to grind with is portrayed as the leftist woke media

Are you calling the media woke, or are you saying that Conservative leaders are calling the media woke?

Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

#192

Media in Canada is in pretty dire straits right now. It looks like one of the last left-ish leaning papers (Toronto Star) is about to be gobbled up by post media. A huge swath of broadcast news media is owned by just one company, Bell which predictably leads to stories like "Top Bell Media executive urged CTV to avoid ‘negative spin’ on coverage of parent company". Plus the current batch of conservative leaders (PP,…

Important to note that the CBC is state-funded and even the previous leader of the ultra left-wing party, Tom Mulcair, has recently accused the CBC of having a heavy left-wing bias.

Right, who could forget PP asking Elon Musk to get the CBC flagged as state media in the same class as Xinhua and Russia Today.

Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

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> To me the inflection point was the 2016 US election (which also coincided with Brexit.) And with the beginning of the Ukrainian conflict.

Russian annexed Crimea in 2014. Or are we talking about "2016-ish"?

When do you think the 2016 election was held, and when did the participants in it campaign?

Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

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True. There is some great content (blogs, OS software, books, p2p networks, public libraries, academia, government), but by and large that wasn't created with monetary incentives. Could there be a way to sustainably make enough money from visitors without making it all suck?

I think there really needs to be a micro-transaction mechanism on the web, but unfortunately it was needed ten years ago and there still isn't one.

Yes but the crypto folks didn't do that, they were busy chasing nfts.

Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

#195

Media in Canada is in pretty dire straits right now. It looks like one of the last left-ish leaning papers (Toronto Star) is about to be gobbled up by post media. A huge swath of broadcast news media is owned by just one company, Bell which predictably leads to stories like "Top Bell Media executive urged CTV to avoid ‘negative spin’ on coverage of parent company". Plus the current batch of conservative leaders (PP,…

I would like to see the CBC dismantled. The CBC no longer fulfills its mandate of serving the general public.

Your comment, "Top Bell Media executive urged CTV to avoid ‘negative spin’ on coverage of parent company" equally applies to CBC and the current government or leading political party.

Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

#196
A side effect of this implies that if the internet platforms drop all Canadian media as a result of this law, it demonetizes all Canadian media, and then the only Canadian media that survives is what is directly subsidized by the government at its discretion.

I see why this "works" now. The effect is censorship and silencing of disfavoured outlets with the pretense of deniability. This country is a lost cause.

Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

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> To me the inflection point was the 2016 US election (which also coincided with Brexit.) And with the beginning of the Ukrainian conflict.

Do you mean the Russian invasion of sovereign Ukraine territory?

I mean what the hell I said.

Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

#198

A side effect of this implies that if the internet platforms drop all Canadian media as a result of this law, it demonetizes all Canadian media, and then the only Canadian media that survives is what is directly subsidized by the government at its discretion. I see why this "works" now. The effect is censorship and silencing of disfavoured outlets with the pretense of deniability. This country is a lost cause.

Possible non-sequitur:

... "if the internet platforms drop all Canadian media as a result of this law, it demonetizes all Canadian media, and then the only Canadian media that survives is what is directly subsidized by the government at its discretion."

Does Canadian media have no other revenue stream other than the Internet?

Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

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Brazil is currently considering a similar law that would require social networks to compensate content creators for each republication [1]. However, unlike the situation in Canada, the Brazilian lawmakers have taken into account this scenario. The law mandates that social networks cannot cease publishing the content and must negotiate compensation in "fair terms." Personally, I find this approach to be quite perplexi…

> The law mandates that social networks cannot cease publishing the content

So, how does Brazil stop them from withdrawing from Brazil entirely?

Re: Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

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Where are the adverts on google news? I haven't seen a single advert there in 10 years, and I just looked very carefully in case I somehow missed them, but no, there are none.

Even within the search results, there will be ads. If you search "what happened in Canada today", Google will link some news and there will likely be a sponsored link or some form of income-generating item for Google. Then there's the data you're generating as you use Google to navigate to the content you want, which can also be sold. Google connects you to content, every dollar they make is dependent on a non-Google…

I just tried, and didnt see any ads on news searches on canada news, or other news searches. Do you see any?
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