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I could understand how this applies to state universities, but how does the US Constitution have this kind of jurisdiction over Harvard?
I could understand how this applies to state universities, but how does the US Constitution have this kind of jurisdiction over Harvard?
If this can't apply to Harvard, then presumably it's legal to have private schools that only allow white people?
Though now that you mention it, I looked at the article a bit more closely. It says that conservatives "...argued that the Constitution and the civil rights law prohibited discrimination based on race...". The civil rights law part makes more sense than the constitution part. But, the article says that the SCOTUS based this on the 14th amendment.
It's probably more complicated than this article makes it out to be.
—- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
https://www.npr.org/2010/01/18/122701268/i-have-a-dream-spee...
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The underlying important question is what do you define as equality? Equality of outcomes, or equality of opportunity? This is a very slippery slope when some definitions are not equal, or stated, as we’ve come into a recent crisis of definitions being rewritten unnaturally (I understand the meaning of words change over time, but there have been recent inorganic changes, I’d argue) The classic opportunity of outcome…
Equality of opportunity after centuries of slavery and then legal discrimination in a society that allows (and even outright promotes) inherited wealth and opportunity is not possible. Imagine my ancestors stole all of your ancestors stuff and I still get to keep it all and anything I've built using it. We've stopped stealing your stuff now, though, so we have "equality of opportunity."
Yes, I agree!
But what if my ancestors did not steal your ancestors stuff? Am I still responsible, because I have the same skin color as the folks who harmed you?
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This issue is personal for justices Thomas, Jackson, and Sotomayor especially. I think that is reflected in their opinions.
Sotomayor as well. What fascinates me about Thomas’s dissent is towards the end he talks about HBCUs and how effective they are. You’ll find language of his in a lot of places suggesting black separatist—type sympathies. He was a genuine radical in his college years in that respect, and he’s still clearly sympathetic to sone extent. Cards on the table: I think Justice Thomas has a genuinely nutty jurisprudence. Like…
How many other judges routinely cite their own opinion when it was in the minority? I gotta say though I respect the massive the balls to constantly be doing that.
Worth noting that while affirmative action has been banned, we still have proxies for race (aka legacy admissions) which overwhelmingly favor rich and white students. And given the historical discrimination of elite universities, this ban on affirmative action without addressing legacy admissions or historical harm will only increase the number of white students at universities. We can't pretend that eliminating race…
not really. Legacy students have higher SAT scores than non-legacy. https://features.thecrimson.com/2021/freshman-survey/academi...
Whites are also the only ethnic group on Harvard's campus that are underrepresented relative to their percentage of the population. I think to argue that Harvard (I am using them as the example since they are part of the SC case and relevant here) is white supremacist is absurd. It's really quite the opposite.
In fact, I think the SFFA case will reduce the number of white students because Harvard may have been using affirmative action to help poor white students who are the least likely to take test prep[1] and likely didn't attend a high powered high school.
There is absolutely 0 appetite from Harvard to favor white people in any way.
[1]: https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2014/03/th...
Clarence Thomas's concurrence does not mince words: > This, [Justice Jackson] claims, locks blacks into a seemingly perpetual inferior caste. Such a view is irrational; it is an insult to individual achievement and cancerous to young minds seeking to push through barriers, rather than consign themselves to permanent victimhood. [...] What it cannot do is use the applicant’s skin color as a heuristic, assuming that be…
Clarence Thomas is the epitome of what makes America the greatest country on earth.
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https://indypendent.org/2015/01/the-white-race-was-invented-... https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/apr/20/the-invention-o... I also seem to recall a factory or trade uprising/strike in/around Europe between 1400-1700 where they basically made up whiteness to divide the laborers and get them to argue amongst themselves (successfully), but this may be apocryphal as I cannot seem to find a source.
Really, people had to be told that people with white(r) skin, are similar..? How stupid do these people think 'everyone else' is. This is the most absurd thing I've read all day. Humans, who divide themselves along such lines as _what tv shows they like_, had to have the concept of _skin colour_ invented for them. Really think about how ridiculous this assertion is.
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> I assume the intent is to help disadvantaged people have opportunities that more priviledged people have already. Right? I mean, I can get behind that. But then why the entire detour with race? Up until about 1971 (possibly later, but that's the date of Loving vs Virginia ), the US had formal, legal discrimination against black people. On finally removing that, there was at various times discussion of whether peopl…
Pasadena, a decent sized city in Los Angeles County that houses Caltech of all places, was forced to officially desegregate in the 1970s but they've still got tons of policies left over that discriminate in housing [1]. South Pasadena real estate agents unofficial redlined the neighborhoods well into the 1980s and possibly even the 1990s. Schools, especially in Altadena, were still highly segregated when I went to el…
The best method of college entrance is whats done in east asia. China does the Gaokao (hard SAT), and students list their university preferences and filters students into colleges based on their score and their preferences. Japan takes entrance exams for a university. These seem like infinitely fairer methods than the US where they try and correct for disadvantage in a variety ways.