Bill C-18: Google to remove news links in Canada over online news law

Post by TekMol » Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 6:59 PM UTC

throw0101c wrote: post #14

TekMol wrote: post #6

News outlets usually provide RSS feeds. Don't they allow to show the contents of those feeds on websites? And isn't showing the content of the RSS feed "fair use" anyhow? When I look at the content of the Toronto Star for example: https://www.thestar.com/content/thestar/feed.RSSManagerServl... My gut feeling is that showing those short snippets with a link to the articles should be fair use. Am I wrong?

> And isn't showing the content of the RSS feed "fair use" anyhow? Fair use and copyright are 'artificial' legal constructs, so if they were defined in an 'arbitrary' way to begin with, they can be redefined to add or remove provisions. These online publishing laws could tweak those provisions. Also: when an RSS/Atom feed is published, it is still copyrighted, and the terms and conditions would/could perhaps be defin…

Post by DwnVoteHoneyPot » Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 7:01 PM UTC

neverrroot wrote: post #18

How long till they will beg to be re-linked?

Post by TekMol » Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 7:01 PM UTC

mrweasel wrote: post #20

TekMol wrote: post #6

News outlets usually provide RSS feeds. Don't they allow to show the contents of those feeds on websites? And isn't showing the content of the RSS feed "fair use" anyhow? When I look at the content of the Toronto Star for example: https://www.thestar.com/content/thestar/feed.RSSManagerServl... My gut feeling is that showing those short snippets with a link to the articles should be fair use. Am I wrong?

My understanding was that the complaints was against using larger excerpts. I haven't used neither Googles nor Metas offerings, but the objection that I read in a different article was about users reading the news on Facebook, rather than letting the users click through to the newspapers. If Google and Meta just generate free traffic for the news site, then I'm not really sure why they're complaining. If their write…

Post by kccqzy » Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 7:02 PM UTC

whywhywhydude wrote: post #9

Going a step further, I think google should stop crawling websites that are paywalled. When I search for something, I want to see results that I can click on. Not some snippets from NYT, WSJ, Bloomberg and others which are heavily paywalled.

Post by duringmath » Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 7:05 PM UTC

lordleft wrote: post #12

Surely news publications benefit more from Google/Facebook providing links to their content? It's a mutually beneficial relationship. I'm a bit puzzled as to why this was pushed, I'd love some context for this.