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Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Post by ethanbond »

no_butterscotch wrote: post #99
justinator wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

3M knew about the negative "externalities" of PFAS 50 years ago, they just decide YOU didn't nee to know. https://theintercept.com/2018/07/31/3m-pfas-minnesota-pfoa-p... It's the same with oil companies having studies on climate change privately, while discounting climate scientists publicly. Profits over People is the way of Capitalism!

I'm always surprised by this when it's "50 years ago". Certainly the scientists and analysts at 3M who collected and analyzed the data would have thereafter known of it's extremely harmful effects. And I don't mean to open this up to "heh yea well they made bank!" I don't think they did relatively speaking. My main question, is that certainly those scientists would have been advising their friends and families to sta…

It's pretty easy to accidentally convince yourself of things when you get a big payday by doing so.

This is why analyzing clinical trial data is so obscenely hard. There are bad actors, there are liars, and there are scientists who are really, really hoping to achieve a breakthrough. All of them are liable to end up putting forth bad information.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Post by jeron »

dimitar wrote: post #98

This is awful reporting. Aspartame has been studied for more than 40 years and no regulatory body in any country has found it to be cancerogenic; it is a risky substance for people with a rare desease called Phenylketonuria. So, the reader will be under the impression that it will cause cancer, which is pretty dubious, all while obesity for which sugary drinks are partially responsible is a very real cancer risk.

effectively this is pick your poison: aspartame or sugar

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Post by TheRealPomax »

dimitar wrote: post #98

This is awful reporting. Aspartame has been studied for more than 40 years and no regulatory body in any country has found it to be cancerogenic; it is a risky substance for people with a rare desease called Phenylketonuria. So, the reader will be under the impression that it will cause cancer, which is pretty dubious, all while obesity for which sugary drinks are partially responsible is a very real cancer risk.

But what does California's proposition 65 say about it?

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

cheekibreeki2 wrote: post #86

Just returned from Ireland and every 'regular' soda was full of disgusting artificial sweeteners. In the usa these would be labeled diet. And of course sucralose was pretty common and we're now finding scary things about its harm to the human body. Sugar really isn't that bad..

Sugar in the amount put in soda absolutely is terrible for you. The problem definitely is with people drinking too much soda, period, but replacing your average Americans's diet soda consumption with sugar soda consumption works out to an average increase of ~73 calories/person/day. Of course, most of that consumption is being done by the subset of the population currently primarily drinking diet soda, which multiples that number by 2-5 depending on what study you refer to. Which would definitely be an alarming increase in caloric consumption in a significant block of the population.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Post by 131012 »

jeron wrote: post #102
dimitar wrote: post #98

This is awful reporting. Aspartame has been studied for more than 40 years and no regulatory body in any country has found it to be cancerogenic; it is a risky substance for people with a rare desease called Phenylketonuria. So, the reader will be under the impression that it will cause cancer, which is pretty dubious, all while obesity for which sugary drinks are partially responsible is a very real cancer risk.

effectively this is pick your poison: aspartame or sugar

Well no. May I suggest water?

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Post by tehnub »

jeron wrote: post #102
dimitar wrote: post #98

This is awful reporting. Aspartame has been studied for more than 40 years and no regulatory body in any country has found it to be cancerogenic; it is a risky substance for people with a rare desease called Phenylketonuria. So, the reader will be under the impression that it will cause cancer, which is pretty dubious, all while obesity for which sugary drinks are partially responsible is a very real cancer risk.

effectively this is pick your poison: aspartame or sugar

I choose Stevia

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

dimitar wrote: post #98

This is awful reporting. Aspartame has been studied for more than 40 years and no regulatory body in any country has found it to be cancerogenic; it is a risky substance for people with a rare desease called Phenylketonuria. So, the reader will be under the impression that it will cause cancer, which is pretty dubious, all while obesity for which sugary drinks are partially responsible is a very real cancer risk.

Why is it awful reporting? The WHO’s cancer division (IARC - International Agency for Research on Cancer) is labeling it as being, quite literally, a “possible carcinogen.” That’s the actual name of the category. It’s either “Not classified,” “Possible Carcinogen,” “Probable Carcinogen,” or “Carcinogen.”

Don’t like it? Bring it up with the WHO.

Re: Aspartame sweetener to be declared possible cancer risk by WHO, say reports

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Post by carimura »

nightski wrote: post #73

Thats interesting. All the recent scientific evidence I have been seeing has been saying that Aspartame really isn't bad. This seems suspect. It's so hard to trust science today since it has become so intertwined with politics and corporate agendas.

agreed, it's really hard with lobbyists, captured agencies, flawed studies, social media noise, political narratives, etc etc etc. We try our best to just go back to first principles: as close to the food source as possible, as few added ingredients as possible, organic, etc.
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