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Theoretically it's impossible to travel through space at or more than speed of light. But space itself can move faster than light speed, and a warp drive would help something similar that you mentioned. That is possible theoretically. But the amount of energy or mass it needs is very high and no current technology (or in foreseeable future) can achieve it. So FTL remains a dream. My hunch based on nothing is that we…
> My hunch based on nothing is that we will achieve FTL no earlier than 2250. I see you too have been forced to give PMs estimates when you don't understand the problem.
Monster gravitational waves spotted for first time
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Re: Monster gravitational waves spotted for first time
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not so much that you see a slightly different "down," but that space itself is changing such that the distance between e.g. your head and feet is (very) slightly altered.
Dumb, but earnest question: if space itself changes, how can the distance change? What is the distance a measure of, if not space itself? What's the yardstick, speed of light?
Gravitational waves really do change the time it takes for light to travel between two points. We use light travel-times to measure distances, thus we say that the distance between the points has changed.
If it feels counterintuitive for spacetime to be changing, that's good. It is outside our human experience and perception. The strongest gravitational waves ever observed by scientists passed through everyone who was alive in 2015. None of those people noticed before the instruments registered a detection.
Re: Monster gravitational waves spotted for first time
#53What do these waves look like as they pass through us? Acoustic-like compression and expansion of particles as molecules temporarily reorient toward a “down” that is ever-so-slightly off from the Center of mass of the Earth? Also, I assume that these waves are very gentle sinusoids? Could the opposite — a high-amplitude gravitational square wave — be possible? What would it do to the things it passes through?
The gravitational way has a direction (say, z) in which its propagating. Within the plane perpendicular to that direction (x-y), a circular ring of particles will at at one moment experience squeezing in one direction (x) and stretching the perpendicular direction (y). As the wave passes through and you move from the peak of the wave to the trough, the directions reverse, so the first direction (x) stretches and the other direction (y) squeezes. By "stretching" and "squeezing" I mean instantaneous additional (positive and negative) acceleration on top of the (much, much larger) acceleration from the background gravitational field provided by the Earth.
Here's a visualization:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313828462/figure/fi...
Just as a child can swing their legs at the resonant frequency of a swing to pump up their sinusoidal amplitude, a very weak gravitational wave can pump up a ring oscillator if it's oscillating at the ring's resonant frequency.
Exactly square gravitational waves are of course not possible, just as for electromagnetic waves. (They would have infinite energy at the corners.) But in principle you could get a close approximation. However, spacetime is incredibly stiff, and I think all the known real-world sources produce pretty smooth waves. I presume most violent events are mergers of existing black holes, and essentially always result from a smooth in-spiral rather, say, a sharp collision event. This is what the "chirp" signal looks like to the LIGO detector:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWqhUANNFXw
The effects of a square wave would be roughly as you would expect: instead of smoothly pumping up an oscillator, it would give it a sharp kick, just as with electromagnetism.
Re: Monster gravitational waves spotted for first time
#54I understand the gist of this research: pulsars emit radio waves at regular frequencies, so by monitoring radio waves received from pulsars in the sphere surrounding us, we can measure correlated anomalies in their frequencies and infer that they were caused by large gravitational waves that effectively changed the shape of the transmission medium. That makes sense. But this is not measuring the gravitational wave it…
Not sure it answers your question but my impression is they simulate results of all possible effects and then see which one(s) the data correlates with. So if there are multiple causes that could produce identical effects then I doubt they could distinguish between them.
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#55EDIT as a commenter below has kindly pointed out, our current models indicate that the answer to this question is "no", per https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFLcmsjOBg ------ This is all firmly outside my technical discipline, but aren't there some theories that faster-than-light travel might be achieved by bending spacetime around a spacecraft, as opposed to trying to propel the spacecraft through space? I really wa…
PBS Spacetime did an episode on this just recently! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMFLcmsjOBg In the video, they mention that the models we have for FTL (by bending spacetime) wouldn't generate ripples in this way. We could however detect ripples from a really massive ship accelerating really really quickly.
I feel like a quasi-expert on these subjects because of it. lol
Re: Monster gravitational waves spotted for first time
#56What do these waves look like as they pass through us? Acoustic-like compression and expansion of particles as molecules temporarily reorient toward a “down” that is ever-so-slightly off from the Center of mass of the Earth? Also, I assume that these waves are very gentle sinusoids? Could the opposite — a high-amplitude gravitational square wave — be possible? What would it do to the things it passes through?
I recommend looking into LIGO and other similar experiments. They use laser interferometry to accurately measure the distance between two points, to an extreme degree. From LIGO's website: Gravitational waves cause space itself to stretch in one direction and simultaneously compress in a perpendicular direction. In LIGO, this causes one arm of the interferometer to get longer while the other gets shorter, then vice v…
Please ELI5 specifically and empiracally what "Space Itself" actually is.
Would it be possible to build a 'galactic clock & Compass' - a "clock" to the regular pulses of a pulsar and the galactic direction the pulsar is in relation to the terrestrial compass (magnetic) on earth...?
What is the pulsar with the most reliable timings?
Re: Monster gravitational waves spotted for first time
#57Re: Monster gravitational waves spotted for first time
#58I understand the gist of this research: pulsars emit radio waves at regular frequencies, so by monitoring radio waves received from pulsars in the sphere surrounding us, we can measure correlated anomalies in their frequencies and infer that they were caused by large gravitational waves that effectively changed the shape of the transmission medium. That makes sense. But this is not measuring the gravitational wave it…
Re: Monster gravitational waves spotted for first time
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Theoretically it's impossible to travel through space at or more than speed of light. But space itself can move faster than light speed, and a warp drive would help something similar that you mentioned. That is possible theoretically. But the amount of energy or mass it needs is very high and no current technology (or in foreseeable future) can achieve it. So FTL remains a dream. My hunch based on nothing is that we…
'space' isnt a substance that can move at any speed. What's meant by the claim that 'space moves faster than light' is that extremely distant objects are moving away from each other, relative to each other, 'faster than light' -- which is permitted, so long as that distance can never be bridged by light. The claim amounts to, in other words, that the universe is so large that we can compare objects at distances great…
I think this simply refers to the metric expansion of the universe [1]. While nothing actually travels FTL, the distance between some objects really expands faster than FTL and is not an illusion.
[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_the_universe
Re: Monster gravitational waves spotted for first time
#60Dumb question but why can a gravity wave escape a black hole but not a light wave?
But that's just a cartoon. Strictly speaking, the picture of a wave traveling with respect to a fixed background spacetime is only an accurate approximation when the wave is very weak. In the immediate neighborhood of a black hole merger, the approximation breaks down, and you just have to look how the whole spacetime itself is evolving (usually through simulation).