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The quest for a simple smartwatch

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Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

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After my two Pebbles, I have never found something quite like it. I have then accumulated a drawer full of sad, obsolete and nonfunctional smart watches. I then moved my interest to good old plain watches. Digital, mechanical, self-winding, manual-winding, hacking seconds, chronographs, divers, all that. It's a rich, complex, and beautiful world. They can get as expensive or as affordable as you want, but for the pri…

I'm right there with you (drawer full of loved-but-neglected pebbles, along with a few Garmin watches).

I ended up going the other direction, I got an apple watch and just sucked it up and accepted that I'll toss it on the charger every morning. It has a lot of really good features (I can approve okta logins and get authy codes from my wrist, I can check weather and scroll around to browse the forecast, things like that).

I think there are two branches at this point post-pebble. You either get something that augments your phone with a couple benefits over a traditional watch, or you get something like Apple Watch that does many of the things your phone can do, saving you from spending time on the big screen.

For me there's strong value to the latter that makes up for the battery downsides: the powerful-but-focused app functionality means I can accomplish a task without getting pulled into other things. On a phone I find it all too easy to check the weather then start checking notifications and get sucked into news or something.

Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

#192
On paper, the "MyKronoz ZeTime"[a] seems great - even perfect, at least for my needs.

However, some reviews here and there claim it does not do (satisfactorily) what it says on the tin.

- Anyone with direct experience?

There was also a ZeTime 2 announced by MyKronoz in 2019[b], but failure to launch is worrying...

[a] - https://www.mykronoz.com/eu/en/zetime.html

[b] - https://cdn-magento.mykronoz.com/media/wysiwyg/Press/press-a...

Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

#193

I was fairly happy with my fitbit charge 4, but now it's actually useless as a watch most of the time because they pushed a firmware update that reduces the max screen brightness. So now it's impossible to read the screen outside, even on the max settings . God I hate closed down hardware. I don't actually care if the battery life gets shorter because I take the damn thing off every day to shower anyway, and the time…

I have a charge 5 and it's fine - in particular, it would suit the OP.

I also would love to tinker with the fw and be able to service parts. But providing each of those features is a tradeoff. The fw is primarily a cultural issue, but to some extent also a support one. I think that's where I would push harder - rather than the hw aspect. Replaceable batteries are either quite specific or incur a substantial space penalty (are any widely-available button cells rechargable?)

Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

#194

I think the problem is that everyone has their own “all I want - it’s so simple” set of features, but there are nearly limitless possibilities of feature combinations. I wanted a long battery life (e-ink would work) minimal watch with health tracking only. In the end I just chose the Apple Watch SE, switched off all phone & message notifications and made recharging part of my daily routine. It’s easier to adapt than…

I entirely agree with your identification of the problem. Everyone thinks their desired set of features is the most reasonable set of features to want, and is confused why anyone would want anything else.

My desired features are basically yours, plus notifications. I've found the Amazfit Bip to just about fit the bill. I wish it had a bit more health tracking, but the ~month of battery life makes up for it. Watches with batteries that last a week are what confuse me; it's too regular to forget about, and too infrequent to easily remember. I could probably get used to a daily charge though.

Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

#195

I feel the new G-Shocks will fill this role quite well. Insane battery life, ruggedness, and now an improved MIP screen and smart features. I tested out and threw out smart watches. They are not for me. I love the freedom of a €125 dumb rugged square G Shock.

Which g shocks do phone notifications? My problem with the g shock line is it’s so expansive and hard to figure out which does what. The g shock website doesn’t allow you to filter by phone notifications…

The recent release H5600 is a square G Shock with smart features. There's also the GBD 200 and the H1000s, but the 5600 is closest to the old-school square G Shock.

Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

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The Withings Steel HR seems to fit the bill perfectly - it has a screen for phone notifications, a step tracker and basic fitness function, and I regularly get two weeks and more of battery life out of mine. Only problem might be that you find it’s small circular screen too small - but I think that’s a feature of its minimalist aesthetic, not a bug. https://www.withings.com/us/en/steel-hr

How privacy-friendly is that watch? It looks great on paper.

Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

#197
> Plus, call me picky if you like, but having a reputable brand name behind my purchase gives me extra peace of mind when it comes to reliability.

I hope the author realizes that Amazfit is owned by Huami which is a sister/sibling company of Xiaomi. And as of 2021 at least, they were the 3rd largest smartwatch maker after Apple and Samsung.[1] I'd expect their build quality to be at least quite decent on average, and my n=1 $60 Amazfit Bip is probably 4 years old now with absolutely no issues.

> I’m aware that there are cheaper alternatives out there like the Amazfit range but these watches were either too complex, or too basic, there was no middle ground.

AFAIK nearly all the fancier options can be turned off from the app. And apart from a very few models with (I think) 8 segment displays all of them satisfy the author's criteria of notifications + other features.

I sometimes wish Amazfit would advertise more because every "I want a simple smartwatch!" discussion ends up with "Aah I wish Pebble existed" comments, folks paying $$$ for Garmins/Fitbits and people bemoaning the battery life on Apple/Samsung watches. Just get an Amazfit Bip (original or S).

1 - https://www.gizmochina.com/2021/11/30/amazfit-becomes-third-...

Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

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I still only use Pebble watches. You can pick them up on eBay for $30 USD, and the Rebble.io community helps keep them alive. I have yet to see another smartwatch do what they did, which is a bit baffling to me. Watchy came close, being fully programmable with an e-ink screen, but the bulk of the housing was atrocious.

which is a bit baffling to me. I'm guessing pebble watches didn't geolocate you, and report your position, and probably didn't record everything said around you then "anonymize" it, so it was likely deemed useless by VCs, and thus died? No wonder there's no replacement! To all VCs, my startup sells geolocated tools, and also orders screws and nails, automatically, by selling special nails, with an rfid tag build in!…

I hope your tools have a little screen and buzzer to display ads and notify the user in case they haven't "engaged" with it enough.

Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

#199
An interesting thing to note is that Garmin, Coros, and Suunto are pretty much the only brands used by long distance runners, and all three companies have really optimized them for long battery life. I really love my Garmin Fenix 6, and the battery on it lasts around 10 days-2 weeks depending on how much running I record with it. It's funny how most people don't know about Coros or Suunto outside of the running community though.

Re: The quest for a simple smartwatch

#200
Some notes:

- The Forerunner 55 doesn't do SpO2 measurements.

- The 55's battery lasts me about a week, with 4-5 30 minute runs per week.

- The 55 goes on sale occasionally.

- The 55's screen could be much brighter. It's often hard to read the time and date.

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