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Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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Re: Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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I don't know the percentage, but an enormous number of Plex users aren't pirates.

What else do people even use Plex for?

I had it running as a DIY TiVo. But since I canceled cable it's mostly an unused interface for a copy of infocon.org on my NAS and rips of a few dozen DVDs I own.

I probably gave them more money with the lifetime deal than if I paid monthly for the period I used it heavily.

Re: Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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From my nieve point of view, I think, they made a mistake with the $100 lifetime fee (was that about a decade ago!). I paid that and have been using it since, and have never made another payment since.

It's commodity software. It's hard to justify a recurring subscription for something like this. It targets advanced users. If they can set up plex, they can set up alternatives too. And plex does not invest much in improving the core product. I don't remember it as being any better than it was 5-10 years ago. It still has rough edges. Skipping title/end credits is a nice feature though.

Skipping title and end credits should be configurable and automatic per show. This half measure is almost as bad as nothing at all. If I enjoyed having the remote in my hand constantly I’d have a cable subscription instead.

Re: Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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I don't get all the comments of people saying that JellyFin doesn't "just work". I replaced Plex with it a year or so ago and it has just worked since then, without any issue or any particular setup required.

Try comparing the Jellyfin and Plex apps on Xbox, i'd like to switch to only running Jellyfin but the 3rd party device support isn't good enough. Hopefully it'll improve

Re: Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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Does Jellyfin have user friendly clients for iOS, Android, Roku, AppleTV and various SmartTVs?

Every time I've asked them about an app for Samsung or LG tvs - the two most popular brands they've pushed back "we're volunteers, we don't use those TVs, it's not on our to-do list but feel free to code it yourself". They aren't open to being paid to develop it either.

A Roku is what? $50? Cheaper than a new tv and probably a better experience than lgos or tizen…

Re: Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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How is it piracy if you bought the movie?

Because you're not allowed to break the encryption to copy it to hdd.

Illegally breaking the encryption in order to do legal things with the video does not make you a pirate.

Re: Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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The others all lack the apps, Plex is a native app on my TV, Playstation, Phone etc, and it just works. I always found the other solutions to have pretty clunky client options outside of PC browser

Jellyfin native on fire stick and Android tv is far superior to Plex, given they started screwing up their apps to make people subscribe

Fun fact: Android TV is an android device, meaning when you pause a song Jellyfin and switch to another app, that song is still queued up in the background using the Android sound server.

Meaning: You can overlay "My Sharona" on top of any running Netflix video.

Re: Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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Plex can be amazing, but the core user community has absolutely no idea what the heck the Plex devs are doing these days. I've almost never seen such a disconnect between product development and key user community. /r/plex is basically full of posts complaining about long-standing requests, bugs, and broken features that are just simply ignore, followed by posts of "plex just released new feature literally nobody is…

>I also agree the lifetime pass was a bad business move.

As someone with a lifetime PlexPass, I also think it's a terrible move. I'm starting to regret signing up with a company that allows that sort of purchase. It underlies all of the problems I have with Plex.

Lifetime membership sounds great, but it changes the nature of my relationship with Plex. If I pay a subscription I'm a customer; I use their services but I pay more in a subscription than I cost them, everyone is happy with the arrangement. But while I'm coasting off of my $79 Lifetime Plex Pass that I bought years ago I'm not a customer, I don't represent a revenue stream, I represent a growing cost.

I've paid for them to provide a service, but I've also incentivized them to change the service in a way that I use it less, because me using the service costs them money. That dynamic explains the problems I have with Plex. It explains why they're seemingly incapable (unwilling) to fix long standing bugs, and it explains the development of features that their base doesn't want (because Live TV, rental, and gaming represent new markets with new potential subscribers)

Re: Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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There is some confusion about how accessing Plex outside your LAN works. There's direct server communication and then indirect through Plex's servers. You need to check your server configuration to determine which you're using, because a misconfiguration means you're accessing through one of Plex's relays which is going to be massively degraded performance. I still believe this to be a configuration issue, because th…

I rent a gigabit server and have a gigabit connection at home; the client is a shield tv that running android. Videos are h264 and audio is either AC3 or occasionally flac. In other words, all pretty bog standard stuff that doesn't even need transcoding except for bitrate, but my connection is fast enough to not need that. It's not a bandwidth, latency, or HW specs issue. The streams work fine when they work, even wi…

Check out the server remote access settings some time and make sure direct access is available, like I mentioned above. But I’m willing to just digress as we have apparently wildly different experiences.

Re: Plex lays off more than 20 percent of its staff

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I don't know the percentage, but an enormous number of Plex users aren't pirates.

What else do people even use Plex for?

I connect Plex to my TV tuner so I can watch local NFL games from anywhere.

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emby is a great alternative that allows more control with easy local accounts and no ad supported content jellyfin is also great but lacks apps on some devices and is a 100% free OSS alternative

I have been a paying supporter of Emby for a while now, and I feel like I bet on the wrong horse. Development is quite slow. It feels like only a skeleton crew is working on it compared to Jellyfin. Neither Emby or Plex are perfect, but Plex seems to handle transcoding better. Emby still has the advantage over Jellyfin of a native Samsung Tizen app, even though Samsung TVs are slow as shit and it's a horrible experie…

well jellyfin is OSS so if the community is large its going to be hard to match that internally.

i went with emby because it has better app support and i know eventually jellyfin will catch up and surpass it at which point it'll be real easy to just switch over. plex was a non starter because they make local accounts hard to use to better push their ad supported crap on users.

ie your parents create a plex account to use your server the defaults will mean they see all that ad supported plex content until you walk them through removing it

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