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The main problem is that Microsoft is trying to use a WebView. If they really want a single cross-platform app, they should develop a native framework that will work everywhere instead of shoving everything into a web engine.
At work I switched from the Outlook client app to the web version as soon as we migrated our email from on-prem Exchange to MS365 (cloud hosted). Specifically, I get my email at outlook.office.com. Works great in Safari and Chrome on Mac. Searching old emails is way faster and easier in the web version. It takes up no space on my machine, and there are not thousands of potentially sensitive emails sitting on the hard…
The new Desktop outlook is a bad idea because it supports only Office 365 and not on-prem exchange.
(Which itself is a speculative claim with no substantiation except one anecdote)
The main problem is that Microsoft is trying to use a WebView. If they really want a single cross-platform app, they should develop a native framework that will work everywhere instead of shoving everything into a web engine.
vscode is an Electron app and is great and more responsive than its "native" competitor apps from JetBrains.
Microsoft, in the past 10 years, have failed to provide a good UI option for developers. WinForms is legacy. WPF is legacy. WinRT is dead. UWP is dead. MAUI is a mess. WinUI looks to be either abandoned or not getting enough attention to make it a viable option.
From the above, it is understandable why teams in MS are building new products with Web tech. The Windows team should consider this a failure because Windows now has no good, viable option for GUI development.
Can it inline quote emails properly on MacOS? The regular outlook client was still unable to do so in 2022, last time I tried. I have no idea why people would like Outlook, it's an inferior experience compared to other email clients and calendar applications in my opinion. I can't even have my personal gmail calendar imported into my work calendar so nobody can schedule meetings for me when I'm picking up kids from a…
There definitely ARE limits to it -- I've never tried to merge personal stuff into my work cal, as you seem to want to do -- but for what it does, it's the best I've seen.
However the number of times I need to log into Gmail to see my email because it doesn’t render correctly in Windows Mail is just too dang high.
My intuition tells me Windows Mail is using the old pre-Blink Edge engine and if they could just switch that to new Blink Edge then that would make me so very happy.
The main problem is that Microsoft is trying to use a WebView. If they really want a single cross-platform app, they should develop a native framework that will work everywhere instead of shoving everything into a web engine.
They already have MAUI. I don't have direct professional experience with it, but the message I'm getting from those who have used it, is that it's cumbersome. With people instead just sticking with XF/Uno/Avalonia (Avalonia being closer to Flutter in how it doesn't actually tap into the platform's native frameworks).
The outlook app will be native desktop and mobile (except linux for now).
Plus it will give the maui project more credibility, help grow its userbase. Make the framework better by providing a real world project for the maui team to benchmark, highlighting pain point, provide in-house feedback, feature request.
I've switched to Thunderbird after hearing about this a couple of weeks ago. I simply do not want yet another WebView/Electron-based application on my machine. They feel slow and out of place compared to native applications. Microsoft, in the past 10 years, have failed to provide a good UI option for developers. WinForms is legacy. WPF is legacy. WinRT is dead. UWP is dead. MAUI is a mess. WinUI looks to be either ab…
I'd never be able to go back to scrolling with "skeleton rows" that's the web default because it can't render fast enough..