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Re: Trinity Desktop Environment – a modern KDE3 fork

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Post by lproven » Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 9:37 AM UTC

kaba0 wrote: post #90

lproven wrote: post #84

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> Gnome includes many of the OSX menus in its right hand panel. It used to. Now they are all collapsed into a single drop-down thing. (Which is not a panel, BTW. A panel is a toolbar that is permanently attached to the edge of a window or screen.) Why? Who decided this? Who got to vote on it? What is the benefit? I used to use an addon called "Extend Panel Menu" to split these into much more useful separate controls:…

> Because I disagree with you, you think that I'm biased Not because we disagree, because you are talking out of emotion, while I am not. Also, many of your supposed arguments/evidences are just hand-wavy emotional statements. I’m fine with disagreeing with someone, or even if someone can change my mind, but I don’t see it happening here, and mind you, I simply like Gnome’s UX more or less, but not to a degree where…

"I like GNOME so my arguments are reasonable. You do not, so yours are driven by emotion."

Re: Trinity Desktop Environment – a modern KDE3 fork

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Post by kaba0 » Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 1:39 PM UTC

lproven wrote: post #91

kaba0 wrote: post #90

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> Because I disagree with you, you think that I'm biased Not because we disagree, because you are talking out of emotion, while I am not. Also, many of your supposed arguments/evidences are just hand-wavy emotional statements. I’m fine with disagreeing with someone, or even if someone can change my mind, but I don’t see it happening here, and mind you, I simply like Gnome’s UX more or less, but not to a degree where…

"I like GNOME so my arguments are reasonable. You do not, so yours are driven by emotion."

No, I like Gnome, period. That’s a subjective fact. My arguments are reasonable. That’s true, but has no relation to the former.

You do not like Gnome. That’s completely fair, subjective opinion - though you seem to be actively hating it, which is I believe way too strong of an emotion to feel, but you do you.

Your arguments are not logical, and don’t conclude what you say they do. That’s a fact. Just look at the bullshit you wrote about menus and how they are good, while what gnome does is bad — menus also don’t show you what they hide! They don’t start out opened, like come on! They are exactly analogous to what gnome does with the task bar - you just have been using one for decades, and the other is new. But then say that you don’t like new things — completely fair, and feel free to use xfce or whatever! People really dislike change, being a designer is not a kind job, no matter how objectively good your work is. But let’s not post-facto “reason” yourself into that position, because that’s just made up bullshit brains are very good at — we like to build up a reasoning from the emotional conclusion backwards, and not the correct way.

Re: Trinity Desktop Environment – a modern KDE3 fork

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Post by tripleo1 » Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 7:29 PM UTC

skerit wrote: post #64

PuercoPop wrote: post #30

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Amarok was the first app in Linux that was better than the Windows counterpart. My non-technical friends would ask how could they use it. It was the killer app for the Linux Desktop at the time. > Also, dcop is probably the best GUI automation tool I’ve used. Everytime I have to use dbus from the CLI I think to myself, dcop died for this?! To me the best GUI automation tool (in Linux at least) was Kommander, another…

The first few years after KDE4 came out I spent a lot of time on getting Amarok to work on my system. Such an amazing music player. It got harder, and eventually I switched to spotify too. (And even though you have nearly every piece of music at your fingertips, it still pales in comparison to what you could do with Amarok)

Re: Amarok

Have you tried Clementine or Strawberry Player(s)?