Live data from Hacker News

PayPal “Buy Now” buttons have been broken for a week

news.ycombinator.com

11–20 of 49 posts

Re: PayPal “Buy Now” buttons have been broken for a week

#11
post #3

I find that customer support from a lot of companies these days is remarkably degraded from a few years ago. Some companies, I can't even "spend" money with because of this. A real crisis.

Hi, I’m a virtual assistant. How can I help you today? Please, select of of 3 available answers.

Great! Our Support Center has a few helpful articles on that:

Re: PayPal “Buy Now” buttons have been broken for a week

#12
Paypal's customer support is a disaster, and I refuse to use the service anymore after they shut my account down because a withdrawal failed - without informing me - and sent it to collections, also without informing me. The hoops I had to jump through to get it reinstated were a massive pain in the ass, and if it were to happen again, I would happily ignore it forever just because they deserve nothing more.

The sooner that company burns to the ground, the better.

Re: PayPal “Buy Now” buttons have been broken for a week

#15
I find the timing interesting because coincidentally I'm having an issue with Stripe. I'm finding recently on multiple PCs that all Stripe checkouts are giving me a generic-sounding error ("We are unable to authenticate your payment method. Please choose a different payment method and try again.") no matter what credit card I use or whether or not uBlock Origin is turned on for the checkout site. However for some reason, I can still pay "unpaid invoices" through Stripe. When I complained to Stripe, I found that the support folks are not empowered to deal directly with any end-user customers on any technical issues, so it has to be done as a game of telephone through individual merchants, even though from my perspective it's a systematic problem with Stripe itself. This sounds like a lot of work to push the issue through support staff at merchants who may or may not be equipped to deal with more technically focused issues and may also be overloaded with other issues to deal with.

I did my own research and found that there could be a problem with 3D Secure and since I was not prompted about 3D Secure during checkout, that may very well be part of the problem. But since there are no visible unique ID numbers associated with these failures, I don't have any logs to pass up to support, it's all up to the merchant to dig through their Stripe account and look for the relevant info, etc. For one of the payments I had to make, I just used PayPal instead since I noticed that it happened to be another option. That's also a common pattern - everyone has to dual-home their payment processors or else a tremendous amount of "legitimate customers with money are being denied" risk is occupying one bucket.

Sadly, this is a user experience that I find typical of just about any online payment processing flows. I keep wondering, why is payment processing always so terrible?

Re: PayPal “Buy Now” buttons have been broken for a week

#16
post #14

In a similar vein, I swear only about 30% of Apple Pay buttons I encounter on the web actually work. The rest produce a little popup with spinner briefly and then disappear. It's incredibly frustrating.

Interesting. Back when I had Apple Pay enabled bank card I never saw a site where it didn't work. Either there is no Pay or it works. I think the only cases were when the card associated with Pay is not accepted for other reasons (ineligible billing address/country etc).

Re: PayPal “Buy Now” buttons have been broken for a week

#17
post #14

In a similar vein, I swear only about 30% of Apple Pay buttons I encounter on the web actually work. The rest produce a little popup with spinner briefly and then disappear. It's incredibly frustrating.

Where do you see Apple pay on the web? I was excited when it came out, but have only seen it once or twice since then.

Re: PayPal “Buy Now” buttons have been broken for a week

#18
post #14

In a similar vein, I swear only about 30% of Apple Pay buttons I encounter on the web actually work. The rest produce a little popup with spinner briefly and then disappear. It's incredibly frustrating.

Where do you see Apple pay on the web? I was excited when it came out, but have only seen it once or twice since then.

Where do you live and do you have apple pay check enabled in Safari settings?

I see it all over. I was shopping for a keyboard literally yesterday and saw Apple Pay on mechanicalkeyboards and splitkb. I also bought Icebreaker gloves not long ago and they also had Apple Pay. This is from a German IP.

Re: PayPal “Buy Now” buttons have been broken for a week

#19
post #14

In a similar vein, I swear only about 30% of Apple Pay buttons I encounter on the web actually work. The rest produce a little popup with spinner briefly and then disappear. It's incredibly frustrating.

Interesting. Back when I had Apple Pay enabled bank card I never saw a site where it didn't work. Either there is no Pay or it works. I think the only cases were when the card associated with Pay is not accepted for other reasons (ineligible billing address/country etc).

I second this! Every Apple Pay integration I’ve used has been a flawless, so much so that it makes it slightly more likely I’ll buy a product because it’s so fast and easy.

Re: PayPal “Buy Now” buttons have been broken for a week

#20
post #3

I find that customer support from a lot of companies these days is remarkably degraded from a few years ago. Some companies, I can't even "spend" money with because of this. A real crisis.

Hi, I’m a virtual assistant. How can I help you today? Please, select of of 3 available answers.

I was trying to change my policy with Geico today. The web browser "virtual assistant" told me I had to go to another page and gave me the link, but then the assistant and its button disappeared when I navigated away. I switched to the mobile app to try again. The available answers eventually got me to an agent who helped me, but part way through I left WiFi range and was disconnected. Trying to get on again I manually asked to skip to the agent and the virtual assistant got confused. So I clicked on one of the available answers and it got confused by its own answers. By chance I got back to the same agent, but it was definitely clunky.
Post reply on HN