> The reasons for the findings will probably not surprise anyone who has spent much of the past few years working from a dining-room table.
Lmao what a condescending piece of crap writing
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#12I'm glad that everyone is hitting this guy hard, I see these articles all the time and they all stink of entitlement and definitely the guy writing this has something to gain by having this opinion.
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#13There is a hidden premise when it comes to productivity - it always comes at the expense of your personal life. Any numbers like 'X % increase' in productivity at work need to be accompanied with a commensurate 'X % decrease' in time spent living a life. If there is a delusion at all, it is the willful ignorance of this equation. Productivity is at odds with a life well spent.
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#14"Far less noticed was a revised version of their paper, published in May by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York."
The Fed certainly have an agenda here.
And then there's that some of these studies seem to comparing pre-covid productivity to during or after covid, which are quite different worlds.
It might well be the case that trading houses and investment banks can be more 'productive' in-person, since gossip, insider-ish tips, feeling the trading sentiment, collusion etc, is far easier.
I think the take-away is that it very much depends on the work.
One factor of in-office productivity might be the unreported over-time that is almost always a part of office life (can you just do X before you leave/over lunch, etc).
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#15Yeah. Keep pushing it. It's cool that you can write an article trying to astroturf the illusion of control once enjoyed. The world changed, if your organization can't evolve and figure out that there's no going back only forward and the model that works is not just sitting around waiting for you to pluck from your recent addled memory... And when I say you i mean me or anyone else who tells you they know what's going on. What's happening is good. The old model was way dead before we noticed under the hyper tight light of a global pandemic.
That for sure doesn't mean people don't want to collaboratively work in person with humans they like towards a goal that they can all agree on. That has been a thing and always will be. Free money created a lot of vampires who malinvested and now they are whining about how they should be in charge.
Lately I think a lot about what it means that every day of my life since post puberty I've been making computers do illusions. Tricks are something blah blah blah. What is the difference between digital goods and making someone a hammer or chair. The infinite reproducibility. The MBA class was so well heeled by all this free money they assumed that the tickets they collected to go redeem at the prize bank were reality and they are and they can redeem them.
Most of the folks that make the big technical pushes are in a minority, but it's not because the rest of the wash can't. The rest of the wash is given busy work to not compete. It's wild seeing people on LinkedIn getting screwed in the layoffs complimenting the people that wrecked em like that's the only meal.
Foster local, atomized, productive communities. Screw the silos. It's now or never and now was really a while ago.
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#16None of the material in this article individually or together justifies the title
"The working-from-home delusion fades" > Far less noticed was a revised version of their paper, published in May by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. The boost to efficiency had instead become a 4% decline.
Four percent sounds like noise but if it isn't it still sounds like less than the cost of providing facilities for your at location workforce. The average American commute is now 55 minutes round trip. If you wanted to pay them 4% less than in person cost, pocket the money you would have spent on facilities, and let them save an hour a day everyone wins.
> The revision comes hot on the tails of other studies that have reached similar conclusions. David Atkin and Antoinette Schoar, both of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, and Sumit Shinde of the University of California, Los Angeles, randomly assigned data-entry workers in India to labour either from home or the office. Those working at home were 18% less productive than their peers in the office.
You paid them to participate in a study in their homes. I'm guessing some of the people assigned to do fake work at home decided to do other things.
> Chinese firm eventually halted remote work because off-site employees struggled to get promoted.
So the problem is you promote the people who socialize with the boss. Sounds like Chinese firms work exactly like American firms.
> Teleconferencing is a pale imitation of in-the-flesh meetings:
This depends on how much people are actually engaged. Plenty of people are doing this very well.
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#17> The reasons for the findings will probably not surprise anyone who has spent much of the past few years working from a dining-room table. Lmao what a condescending piece of crap writing
I have a tiny apartment and I still have a dedicated office space. Whose working from a dining room table?
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#18There is a hidden premise when it comes to productivity - it always comes at the expense of your personal life. Any numbers like 'X % increase' in productivity at work need to be accompanied with a commensurate 'X % decrease' in time spent living a life. If there is a delusion at all, it is the willful ignorance of this equation. Productivity is at odds with a life well spent.
The average commute in America by car is 55 minutes round trip or about 2 hours by public transit. That is 12.5–25% more time invested in your job to get your boss at best a few percentage points increase in productivity.
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#20Sadly, from all the car traffic, the vast majority agrees.