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Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by sircastor »

ManlyBread wrote: post #115
muzani wrote: post #66

I don't. I think adblocking is a form of petty theft. If something has too much ads, I don't use it or pay for the ad-free version. I pay for YouTube Premium. Also adblocking does reduce some experiences. Some sites will tell you to disable it, and that's more irritating than the ad banners. I had conversation with my daughter on how games used to have no ads but now they're chock full of ads, but TV has no ads now b…

How it is petty theft when I did not consent to be advertised to in the first place?

The argument is that your consumption of the content is is tacit consent. I find the argument to be specious at best.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by sircastor »

more_corn wrote: post #102
muzani wrote: post #66

I don't. I think adblocking is a form of petty theft. If something has too much ads, I don't use it or pay for the ad-free version. I pay for YouTube Premium. Also adblocking does reduce some experiences. Some sites will tell you to disable it, and that's more irritating than the ad banners. I had conversation with my daughter on how games used to have no ads but now they're chock full of ads, but TV has no ads now b…

Advertising is manipulation. The advertisers are literally trying to convince you to buy something you didn’t want to buy. They use every psychological trick available to overcome your resistance. By this rationale you should also feel obligated to buy everything that everyone advertises to you, since they paid for the ad specifically to get you to buy.

My favorite analogy here goes back to TV days - where according to this model you're obligated to leave the sound up during the commercial, and remain focused on the screen. Want a snack or to use the bathroom? You owe us your attention.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by muzani »

ManlyBread wrote: post #115
muzani wrote: post #66

I don't. I think adblocking is a form of petty theft. If something has too much ads, I don't use it or pay for the ad-free version. I pay for YouTube Premium. Also adblocking does reduce some experiences. Some sites will tell you to disable it, and that's more irritating than the ad banners. I had conversation with my daughter on how games used to have no ads but now they're chock full of ads, but TV has no ads now b…

How it is petty theft when I did not consent to be advertised to in the first place?

It's theft when they do not consent to you using their services with adblock on.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by muzani »

sircastor wrote: post #132
more_corn wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertising is manipulation. The advertisers are literally trying to convince you to buy something you didn’t want to buy. They use every psychological trick available to overcome your resistance. By this rationale you should also feel obligated to buy everything that everyone advertises to you, since they paid for the ad specifically to get you to buy.

My favorite analogy here goes back to TV days - where according to this model you're obligated to leave the sound up during the commercial, and remain focused on the screen. Want a snack or to use the bathroom? You owe us your attention.

No, you don't need to pay with attention either. The ad pays out when the ad is displayed. If you stop the playing of the ad, they don't get paid. If you leave the TV on and go to the bathroom, or even if you change the channel, the TV station still gets paid.

You don't owe the advertiser anything unless they're paying you directly. You owe the content creator (a youtube channel) and the content distributor (youtube).

The advertisers are aware of this and it's calculated into their rates. If it's an attentive view, the rates are much, much higher.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by Wildliferanger »

muzani wrote: post #66

I don't. I think adblocking is a form of petty theft. If something has too much ads, I don't use it or pay for the ad-free version. I pay for YouTube Premium. Also adblocking does reduce some experiences. Some sites will tell you to disable it, and that's more irritating than the ad banners. I had conversation with my daughter on how games used to have no ads but now they're chock full of ads, but TV has no ads now b…

https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2022/PSA221221?=8324278624 The FBI itself highly suggests you dont use the internet without an adblocker due to security risks and scams.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by t0bia_s »

aalhour wrote: post #128
RGBCube wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

## If you are rooted: Install AdAway and use the root method; this will modify the system hosts file and redirect the requests to domains that are used to serve ads to 127.0.0.1. Some apps refuse to function if they can't fetch ads, so AdAway has a webserver that listens on 127.0.0.1 that serves a blank webpage to those apps. Follow the directions in AdAway to install the CA certificate in your device. ## If you aren…

I just changed the DNS on my unrooted Android to AdGuard's, went into the YouTube and I still saw the ads. What am I missing?

You need NewPipe for unbloated, distraction free YouTube on Android.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by t0bia_s »

morserer wrote: post #84
aerio wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a few notable differences between android and iOS as far as adblocking is concerned: 1) Android lets you install other browsers and use them as default. Some of these, like Firefox or Brave or Vivaldi, include adblocking software that works everywhere, even YouTube. Whereas on iOS, even if you install chrome, it's just a reskinned safari because Apple refuses third parties proper access to the system. https:/…

AdAway on F-Droid is FOSS and works with or without root, big fan of that one.

Without root it consumes more battery. Using DNS adblocking is more efficient. Like NextDNS or pi-hole.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by t0bia_s »

muzani wrote: post #133
ManlyBread wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How it is petty theft when I did not consent to be advertised to in the first place?

It's theft when they do not consent to you using their services with adblock on.

If I switch to another chanell during ad on TV, is it theft?

AdBlockers just saves a lot of your time and keep you sane during content consumption.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by t0bia_s »

more_corn wrote: post #102
muzani wrote: post #66

I don't. I think adblocking is a form of petty theft. If something has too much ads, I don't use it or pay for the ad-free version. I pay for YouTube Premium. Also adblocking does reduce some experiences. Some sites will tell you to disable it, and that's more irritating than the ad banners. I had conversation with my daughter on how games used to have no ads but now they're chock full of ads, but TV has no ads now b…

Advertising is manipulation. The advertisers are literally trying to convince you to buy something you didn’t want to buy. They use every psychological trick available to overcome your resistance. By this rationale you should also feel obligated to buy everything that everyone advertises to you, since they paid for the ad specifically to get you to buy.

For me, advertising is basically proof that product is not good enough to be sold by its quality.

Good product is ad by itself.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Post by t0bia_s »

xhkkffbf wrote: post #14

Why? Because I believe they're wrong. I think it's just wrong to engage with any business and disable, sidestep or circumvent their way to make money. It's like shoplifting. It reminds of people who open up a box at the supermarket, eat the food, and then claim that the barcode was on the box so that must be what's for sale. I want the Internet to have ad supported content. I want the people who create this content t…

You want supporting content creativity by relying on third party content creativity? Why not just pay directly.
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