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Larry Ellison: Oracle Database 1,000x Faster Than AWS Aurora

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Re: Larry Ellison: Oracle Database 1,000x Faster Than AWS Aurora

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Post by RandomBK »

They don't even bother trying to make this sound believable.

You claim it's 1.5x-2x faster? Sure I might believe that despite your prohibition against benchmarks.

10x faster? You better show how your engineers pulled out that miracle.

1000x? You've either picked out a very weird edge case, used something in a way it's not meant to be used, or just made that up. Anyone who's done any serious benchmarking in a competitive space will instantly recognize that as a 'that cant be right' result.

Re: Larry Ellison: Oracle Database 1,000x Faster Than AWS Aurora

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Post by dragonwriter »

> we have customers moving from Amazon Aurora where they’re experiencing a 1,000x speedup versus Aurora.

> So we’re a thousand times faster in query processing than Amazon’s version of MySQL

No, “some customers are experiencing 1,000 speedup”, even if true, does not imply that, in general, your db offering is 1,000 faster.

Re: Larry Ellison: Oracle Database 1,000x Faster Than AWS Aurora

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Post by staunch »

placesalt wrote: post #8
belval wrote: post #7

> We use this very fast RDMA network, and we start with that. And in our Gen2 Cloud, our entire network is a super-fast network, which means that most of the applications you run in the Oracle Cloud are going to be much faster than our competitors’ clouds because they don’t use that kind of network. So we have huge cost advantages. So instead of giving actual metrics, just say "very fast", "super-fast" and "much fast…

Funny to see this now, when thinking about a response he gave to the question 'what the hell is cloud computing', way back in ~2009: "it is the most nonsensical .. maybe I'm an idiot, it's really just complete gibberish..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FacYAI6DY0

That's a very misleading set of partial quotes to assemble in that order...

Ellison wasn't confused about any of the technical topics around cloud computing. He was complaining about the marketing trend at the time of slapping the "cloud computing" buzzword on all kinds of things that already existed.

This is a thing that happens in the tech world a lot, and it is pretty annoying. A more modern example is the over-use of "serverless" buzzword.

Re: Larry Ellison: Oracle Database 1,000x Faster Than AWS Aurora

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Post by wredue »

RandomBK wrote: post #12

They don't even bother trying to make this sound believable. You claim it's 1.5x-2x faster? Sure I might believe that despite your prohibition against benchmarks. 10x faster? You better show how your engineers pulled out that miracle. 1000x? You've either picked out a very weird edge case, used something in a way it's not meant to be used, or just made that up. Anyone who's done any serious benchmarking in a competit…

Python vs C/C++/Rust/Zig has even more startling performance differences.

If you’re looking for benchmarks of the same classes of software, among techempower benchmarks, the fastest on the charts are often well over 1000x faster.

Being 1000x slower than shit needs to be is, very literally, the default state of the vast majority of software today. I don’t even blink at 1000x claims cause that’s just the standard gains you get over popular software.

Re: Larry Ellison: Oracle Database 1,000x Faster Than AWS Aurora

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Post by staunch »

It would be unsurprising to find that Oracle's MySQL cloud service is 1000x faster than AWS Aurora for some specific things, or maybe even entire classes of problems.

It would be equally unsurprising if Aurora is 1000x faster for other classes of problems.

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