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US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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I have heard these types of claims many times. The people making them seem more credible at first glance this time, but I am firmly in the camp of being deeply skeptical until I see concrete proof presented. That being said, I don’t completely discount the possibility. One answer to the Fermi paradox is that there isn’t one, and I can think of many reasons multiple governments would try to keep stuff like this secret…

The thing that bothers me is they supposedly have 12 or more craft that have crashed. Aliens have super sophisticated tech that is hardy enough to travel millions of light years through space but it crashes so easy on earth? What caused them to crash? I'd like to believe, and I think 1 or 2 might be reasonable but the claim is 12, which doesn't account for ships obtained by other nations as Grusch said I'd happening.…

> What caused them to crash?

Because nobody has figured out an autopilot that doesn't shit the bed once in a while? I'm betting on taking a nap in the backseat is just a universally bad idea when nobody is driving.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming this isn’t just a big psyop trying to scare US adversaries, and that UFO’s are real… the US was the first to detonate nukes in 1945, and on its own territory, which might explain some of it. Maybe the UFO’s were investigating how scientifically and technologically advanced humanity was becoming, and naturally focused on nuclear tech as a leading indicator. The 1936 Berlin Olympics TV broadcast might also hav…

This makes a lot of sense. To a sufficiently advanced civilization with the ability to detect large releases of energy elsewhere in the universe, the start of the atomic age could have sent an unmistakable signal - distinct from other patterns caused by natural phenomenon - that an advanced form of life must exist here.

Exactly. Humanity's first radio broadcast capable of detection from distant space was the 1936 Berlin Olympics broadcast. Then nukes nine years later were even more detectable, and discernible from natural sources. 4yrs travel time to Alpha Centauri, then 4 years back in a lightspeed craft, and voila - Roswell, sightings, abductions, coverups, etc.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would assume the issue would be that a government agency is reversing UFO tech and congress doesn't know about it, not just that it's being done. A government agency going rogue in such a manner would be a big concern

What does it mean to "reverse" UFO tech?

Reverse engineering a UFO would be disassembling and studying it so that we can recreate it or repurpose the technologies in it. Presumably it would have some manner of exotic engine or power source or perhaps weapons, etc.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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All the people here claiming new types of drones and secret programs dating back decades have clearly never worked in defense. Most of the US military, the best funded in the world, is decades behind the private sector on computing technology -- it's honestly unthinkable to me that their propulsion technology would be decades (or centuries) ahead. The best engineers and scientists have taken Silicon Valley jobs payin…

Yes and no. The military has lots of old tech because it's heavily field tested, well understood, and still does what it needs to do good enough.

They do use cutting edge stuff to, and silicon valley pays well, but really only if your a software guy. Contrary to contemporary beliefs, their still are smart engineers out their building cutting edge non-compute hardware.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

#155

All the people here claiming new types of drones and secret programs dating back decades have clearly never worked in defense. Most of the US military, the best funded in the world, is decades behind the private sector on computing technology -- it's honestly unthinkable to me that their propulsion technology would be decades (or centuries) ahead. The best engineers and scientists have taken Silicon Valley jobs payin…

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Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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I have heard these types of claims many times. The people making them seem more credible at first glance this time, but I am firmly in the camp of being deeply skeptical until I see concrete proof presented. That being said, I don’t completely discount the possibility. One answer to the Fermi paradox is that there isn’t one, and I can think of many reasons multiple governments would try to keep stuff like this secret…

The thing that bothers me is they supposedly have 12 or more craft that have crashed. Aliens have super sophisticated tech that is hardy enough to travel millions of light years through space but it crashes so easy on earth? What caused them to crash? I'd like to believe, and I think 1 or 2 might be reasonable but the claim is 12, which doesn't account for ships obtained by other nations as Grusch said I'd happening.…

> Aliens have super sophisticated tech that is hardy enough to travel millions of light years through space but it crashes so easy on earth? What caused them to crash?

Multiple different sets of aliens, fighting over Earth. (I’m not saying that this is true, just that it is one scenario that explains crashes happening if there were aliens as described building craft capable of visiting Earth.)

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

#157

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would assume the issue would be that a government agency is reversing UFO tech and congress doesn't know about it, not just that it's being done. A government agency going rogue in such a manner would be a big concern

What does it mean to "reverse" UFO tech?

Reverse engineering

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

#159

These "UFOs" are in my opinion probably new type of drone. Video of "UFO" over Poland: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WZN0T_54xY Pentagon video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6Wmap12xm0 Picture of crashed orb in Mexico: https://www.vice.com/en/article/bvmm7a/mysterious-metallic-o... My theory is that these spheres are spinning and move using the Magnus effect (the effect that causes a spinning soccer ball to cur…

You can't move a sphere around by spinning it. You can only change your direction.

Spinning around, moving uncontrollably inside a storm, with very variable speed are exactly things that lost balloons do.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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I have heard these types of claims many times. The people making them seem more credible at first glance this time, but I am firmly in the camp of being deeply skeptical until I see concrete proof presented. That being said, I don’t completely discount the possibility. One answer to the Fermi paradox is that there isn’t one, and I can think of many reasons multiple governments would try to keep stuff like this secret…

The thing that bothers me is they supposedly have 12 or more craft that have crashed. Aliens have super sophisticated tech that is hardy enough to travel millions of light years through space but it crashes so easy on earth? What caused them to crash? I'd like to believe, and I think 1 or 2 might be reasonable but the claim is 12, which doesn't account for ships obtained by other nations as Grusch said I'd happening.…

They aren't necessarily designed to return. All our probes to Mars, etc. are one-way.
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