US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

Post by encoderer » Wed, Jun 28, 2023, 5:16 PM UTC

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #76

SkyMarshal wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming this isn’t just a big psyop trying to scare US adversaries, and that UFO’s are real… the US was the first to detonate nukes in 1945, and on its own territory, which might explain some of it. Maybe the UFO’s were investigating how scientifically and technologically advanced humanity was becoming, and naturally focused on nuclear tech as a leading indicator. The 1936 Berlin Olympics TV broadcast might also hav…

This makes a lot of sense. To a sufficiently advanced civilization with the ability to detect large releases of energy elsewhere in the universe, the start of the atomic age could have sent an unmistakable signal - distinct from other patterns caused by natural phenomenon - that an advanced form of life must exist here.

Post by infamouscow » Wed, Jun 28, 2023, 5:17 PM UTC

zadler wrote: post #79

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #4

This sounds more like the discovery of a money pit than anything extraterrestrial.

It’s how the pentagon will pass its first audit.

Post by calvinmorrison » Wed, Jun 28, 2023, 5:19 PM UTC

brookst wrote: post #59

taraharris wrote: post #48

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Official secrecy clearly failed to stop the very scenario you're talking about! We have had nuclear secrecy for nearly 80 years. In that time, nuclear weapons have proliferated to nine countries. North Korea has them, for God's sake. Nuclear weapons are simply a function of having a large enough industrial base to support their development. The "secret sauce" is officially secret, but it isn't actually secret.

“Policy X is useless because it did not stop every single instance of the thing it was trying to reduce” is a fallacious argument. Seat belts did not halt deaths in auto accidents, etc. Secrecy may or may not be warranted, but this is not a good argument against it.

Post by horsawlarway » Wed, Jun 28, 2023, 5:24 PM UTC

EA-3167 wrote: post #77

MoSattler wrote: post #30

The government has previously used UFOs to divert attention. > Over half of all U.F.O. reports from the late 1950's through the 1960's were accounted for by manned reconnaissance flights'' over the United States, the C.I.A. study says. ''This led the Air Force to make misleading and deceptive statements to the public in order to allay public fears and to protect an extraordinarily sensitive national security project.…

The B-21 is getting close to operational, the NGAD is in development, and god only knows what sort of experimental drone tech is being worked on in the dark. That adds up to a lot of test flights and more, and a lot of reasons to throw out the same old "UFO" chaff to cover it.

Post by ender341341 » Wed, Jun 28, 2023, 5:26 PM UTC

Gud wrote: post #103

MoSattler wrote: post #30

The government has previously used UFOs to divert attention. > Over half of all U.F.O. reports from the late 1950's through the 1960's were accounted for by manned reconnaissance flights'' over the United States, the C.I.A. study says. ''This led the Air Force to make misleading and deceptive statements to the public in order to allay public fears and to protect an extraordinarily sensitive national security project.…

What about the other half?