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Re: We raised a bunch of money

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Does PR know you are posting this? Number of restaurants is a measurement of hosting quality? Uptime doesn't matter?

This is neither here nor there, but every time I read a comment like this, all I can think about is that scene in The Office where Dwight Schrute is screaming into his cell phone "Are you saying you invented paper?!"

The Office? Dwight Schrute?

ARE YOU SAYING YOU INVENTED THE OFFICE?

Re: We raised a bunch of money

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Will you be publishing a follow up blog post about how you’re increasing API user fees once you’ve monopolized your particular market? Or how about how you’ll be increasing margins for investors in 5 years as you prepare for your IPO? Why won’t you suffer the fate of every single other tech company that raises a shit load of money which is completely and irrevocably selling out any pretense of being beneficial for cu…

I’m not against this, by that point there will be another hosting provider with even cooler features for small companies to make their next startup in.

Fly.io are doing great I think and that they might one day charge more I’m not that upset by it at all. If fly.io can make money at a higher price that means they are adding more value.

I hasten to add you appear to be hanging out on a forum focused on VC funded startups.

Re: We raised a bunch of money

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Can someone remind me, what is "edge"? It it hosting server-side applications in a position in the network topology that minimizes latency to end users? Or is it that, but for static resources (so similar to the concept of CDN)?

It's the term of art for the portions of the Internet closest to specific customers, and, more generally, for the notion of deploying things in multiple locations, simultaneously such that they're close to users in different cities.

Re: We raised a bunch of money

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Exactly what went through my head when reading > There are customers who are comfortable engaging with tiny Fly.io, and others who are comfortable engaging with the Fly.io that raised an additional $70MM led by EQT ventures There's the other kind of customer who sees that "$70MM led by EQT ventures" is a liability and will inevitably screw over their customers at a later date.

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I think you could just say: "Instead of relying on the concentrated capital of VC firms, we should rely more on individuals investing smaller amounts in companies they want to use. The individuals collective stake in the company can help protect them from the company going against their interests."

That's just the main point right? Everything becomes essentially Kickstarter/Patreon subscriptions, and maybe you pay a little more fees to exchange your money to tokens?

Its surely an appropriate argument to make I guess, just falls a little flat to me personally. Like I just want to use a service and not get ripped off, I don't want to enter into and have stake in some distinct governance structure for every service I want use.

Re: We raised a bunch of money

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How is fly.io different (or even better) than just fronting your entire app, including the dynamic content with cloudfront or another CDN? The CDN is close to the client giving you low latency ssl setup, which can be significant.

I get that this doesn't push your app servers to the edge, but even if you did that you still pay the latency cost of hitting your database in the bunker in Virginia. For many (most?) apps this seems worse as you are making many round trips to the db for a single web request. I would rather pay the latency cost on the web request, and have fast access to the database from the app server.

Seems like fly's target audience is mostly static content?

Re: We raised a bunch of money

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A company with ~60 employees raising $70M seems pretty noteworthy to me. That's a lot of cash to go toward 14 jobs https://fly.io/jobs/ .

I'm not doubting this at all. But let me be more specific what I don't like about their communication. "$70MM led by EQT Ventures." That's awesome, but what are you giving away for this? Are founders selling their shares? Where is the beef? $70M can be everything and nothing at the same time. "There are customers who are comfortable engaging with tiny Fly.io, and others who are comfortable engaging with the Fly.io th…

> We’re all adults here, we can talk about this stuff, right?

proceeds to not really talk about it

Re: We raised a bunch of money

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It just all seems irrelevant to fly.io. I can host stuff on there for money, which is all I want from a service provider. Electricity and storage and network and compute and infrastructure engineers cost money, and I'm happy to give them money. How does web3 get these things paid for?

It’s not irrelevant to the parent and grandparent comment, which (having experienced the recent buyouts at Reddit and others) are rightly wary of a similar outcome, and regard the mere fact of being funded by VCs as a ticking time bomb. So what is the alternative?

Don’t build your app on someone else’s platform. Whether it’s Twitter and Periscope, or Apple vs mamy developers (https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2019/09/05/how-app...) … build on a permissionless platform that isn’t owned by any gatekeepers. Like the Web. Or Ethereum. Or Polygon.

Utility tokens and micropayments via trustlines are exactly done for that purpose.

Re: We raised a bunch of money

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How is fly.io different (or even better) than just fronting your entire app, including the dynamic content with cloudfront or another CDN? The CDN is close to the client giving you low latency ssl setup, which can be significant. I get that this doesn't push your app servers to the edge, but even if you did that you still pay the latency cost of hitting your database in the bunker in Virginia. For many (most?) apps t…

The exact opposite: we're a fullstack platform, so our target audience is largely people who don't just host static Javascript.

Re: We raised a bunch of money

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Hope you can implement a dark mode for your blog/site now that you are big.

Or at least make it friendly to Dark Reader (a well known browser extension for sites that don't implement a dark mode). Currently all your code blocks are black rectangles under it (easy to turn the offending style off using dev tools).

Re: We raised a bunch of money

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I'm not doubting this at all. But let me be more specific what I don't like about their communication. "$70MM led by EQT Ventures." That's awesome, but what are you giving away for this? Are founders selling their shares? Where is the beef? $70M can be everything and nothing at the same time. "There are customers who are comfortable engaging with tiny Fly.io, and others who are comfortable engaging with the Fly.io th…

> We’re all adults here, we can talk about this stuff, right? proceeds to not really talk about it

What more were you hoping to hear? We were really blunt about it. We wrote this post in attempt to sign Alcoa as a customer.
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