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Plastics are poisoning us

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Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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post #279

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Do you consider single use plastic bans to be excessive and authoritarian?

I consider the government interfering in commerce to be authoritarian, correct.

Then this world must be difficult for you. May I suggest relocating to Somalia or another failed state?

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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post #143

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Teflon Aka Polytetrafluoroethylene cookware represents a health hazard. The stuff contains a great deal of Florine and breaks down at 300C, but that’s not purely binary instead it becomes increasingly unstable as your approach the temperature. Further no manufacturing process is perfect, I wouldn’t therefore assume eating significant quantities would be safe. That said, it’s generally used as a coating rather than a…

I understand that Teflon might be a hazard in pans but feel like it reduces the amount of burned food in contrast to steel/iron pans so much for me that I hope it is a net gain. (sorry in advance for all who want to suggest iron skillets. I can't make them work in daily use.)

It becomes more of a fat hazard after this but if you use the proper amount of oil, you can make it impossible to burn food into your pan. lol.

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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If you’re really a minimalist, you don’t own a car

And if you're only kind of a minimalist, who does own a car, you don't wash it.

I don't know... wouldn't a minimalist want to prolong the lifetime of their fewer possessions?

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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300 C is typically the highest setting on a stovetop. I never go above medium when using Teflon cookware. I've not used a cooking thermometer yet, but https://homebli.com/stove-top-temperature-knobs-what-the-num... gives a good general guide line under a section labelled Stove Top Numbers to Degrees. Also, I only use 'plastic' utensils with the pan. The result, not a single scratch on the pan. The surface looks brand…

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Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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People consider it a shocking or impossible policy to ban single use plastics, but future generations will look back on plastics the same way we do at lead paint or asbestos. We're poisoning ourselves and our planet.

I'm not that old and I remember a world that wasn't all single use plastics.

Paper bags at the supermarket, food came in glass or butcher paper, that kind of thing. We got along fine.

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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post #79

I became a minimist to save the planet as much as i could. Its easier than any one could think you know. Here is what i have been doing for a decade and would receommend 1. Reusing plastic bags (i love cotton bags but not ideal). Fold and keep one or two in your pocket before you leave home 2. Support and use light software so you dont need to upgrade your gadgets (12y laptop i use) 3. Prepare and eat home cooked mea…

8 -> copper is toxic. People with some genetic traits will suffer cirrhosis and shouldn't use it for water storage. Cooking on copper pots specially should be avoided. Iron and Aluminum are safer.

no cooking with Aluminum - contributor to Alzheimer's Disease.. low- room temperature use is different

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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post #89

Considering how ubiquitous plastics are, they look rather harmless to me. We are wasting hundreds of millions of tons per year, we eat it, drink it, we have been doing that for decades and we are still discussing statistical signifiance. Sure, not completely harmless, but few things are. And considering the tremendous value plastics have brought to society, I'd say the downsides are comparatively small. What worries…

Maybe some type of microplastics / endocrine disruptor is responsible for increased cancer rates, increase in autism and ADHD, increase in gender dysphoria, increase in obesity etc. This is really hard to prove since we breathe and drink that stuff for many decades now.

But it's not that we need plastics that urgently. Synthetic fibers in clothes, which generate microplastics household dust, could be largely replaced with cotton. Plastic food packaging could be replaced with a modern variant of cellophane. Car tires (which also generate major amounts of dust) could perhaps also be made to a higher percentage of biodegradable material.

Of course all these alternatives aren't free, but maybe they are worth it.

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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Considering how ubiquitous plastics are, they look rather harmless to me. We are wasting hundreds of millions of tons per year, we eat it, drink it, we have been doing that for decades and we are still discussing statistical signifiance. Sure, not completely harmless, but few things are. And considering the tremendous value plastics have brought to society, I'd say the downsides are comparatively small. What worries…

There's microplastics which are now absolutely everywhere. Apparently we consume a credit card's worth of plastic per month. Nobody should feel ok about consuming a drink that's got a ground up credit card in it, yet that's what we're doing. In Asia especially it's crazy how plastic is often used - you go to a 7/11 to buy a cold drink, they put it in TWO flimsy plastic bags which you throw in the first trash can you…

We're not just ingesting it, we're also breathing it in, in form of dust.

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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post #301
post #89

Considering how ubiquitous plastics are, they look rather harmless to me. We are wasting hundreds of millions of tons per year, we eat it, drink it, we have been doing that for decades and we are still discussing statistical signifiance. Sure, not completely harmless, but few things are. And considering the tremendous value plastics have brought to society, I'd say the downsides are comparatively small. What worries…

coincidentally we have a lot of diseases that have skyrocketed in the last 50 years. Yes Perhaps it’s not plastic itself but what plastic enables.

As usual, its difficult to nail these attributions down for a long time. Look at arsenic-containing green wallpaper, leaded gasoline, asbestos, and CFCs. They were all "fine" and widely-used until it was obvious that they were terrible.

Re: Plastics are poisoning us

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post #198
post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teflon Aka Polytetrafluoroethylene cookware represents a health hazard. The stuff contains a great deal of Florine and breaks down at 300C, but that’s not purely binary instead it becomes increasingly unstable as your approach the temperature. Further no manufacturing process is perfect, I wouldn’t therefore assume eating significant quantities would be safe. That said, it’s generally used as a coating rather than a…

I understand that Teflon might be a hazard in pans but feel like it reduces the amount of burned food in contrast to steel/iron pans so much for me that I hope it is a net gain. (sorry in advance for all who want to suggest iron skillets. I can't make them work in daily use.)

There are some great ceramic non-stick pans available these days.
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