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Ask HN: How to navigate the world as a brain-damaged 17 year old?

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Re: Ask HN: How to navigate the world as a brain-damaged 17 year old?

#42
My daughter had a fairly heavy concussion. They take time to heal. They aren't just a day or a week and you're good. There also may be permanent damage, but don't assume that what you have now is what you'll have long-term. There's still healing.

Especially, concussions take rest. Let yourself rest. Give yourself permission to take the time to rest. You need - temporarily, but for an extended period - to stop driving yourself to try to measure up to what you could do before. You need to not feel guilty for doing so. It feels like you're being lazy. You're not - you're being smart. You're taking the time to rebuild what you can, so that you've got more available to use going forward.

Note well: I am not an MD, just a rando on the internet offering advice. If an actual doctor tells you something different, listen to them.

Re: Ask HN: How to navigate the world as a brain-damaged 17 year old?

#43
I hate that this happened to you, I'm so sorry. As a fellow Brit, I know how brutal kids here can be, I've been attacked (broken nose, kicked in the head and face), and I was so fortunate not to have any lasting damage (that I know of...). I share your pain in terms of the justice system, out of the four times I was attacked, only once was it properly investigated and went to court. And that was only because the guy was dumb enough to do it in front of a CCTV camera and didn't even bother to flee. That was the least serious attack as well.

Hopefully your condition will improve, your brain's still developing and still very malleable still, so, hopefully it can repair over time and you'll start to feel sharper again.

What I will say, it sounded like you were exceptional to begin with, so I'll hazard a guess that you'll still have a more than competent set of skills, in spite of what happened to you. So, you'll probably still have a fantastic career even with this setback. You're still so young, and most people you age aren't even thinking of their careers, or even have employable skills (I didn't start programming until I left uni at 21, for example). So you have time on your side, big time.

So, just make sure you look after yourself, focus on healing as much as you can. Don't push yourself too hard, be patient, make sure you have the support you need from friends and family. Do things you enjoy, life's not all about careers and jobs, especially when you're young. It's great you're so motivated and thinking about these things at your age. But, don't make this the be all end all, enjoy your younger years.

Also, reframe the way you see setbacks like this. You might not go to Oxbridge, and that might suck, but you don't know what you'll do instead. Often, when I miss out on something, I find a way to turn it into a positive, I find a way to make the most of negatives and turn them into positives. Who knows, you might skip uni altogether, start a business and have more success than if you were to get into GCHQ or Oxbridge or whatever. You might have hated those two options once you got there, you just never know.

Focus on your recovery, I wish you all the very best of luck with everything. Genuinely.

Re: Ask HN: How to navigate the world as a brain-damaged 17 year old?

#44
Your situation and mine seem very similar, it sounds like. I went to a technical high school, then studied computer science in university. My concussion came when I was 33 and my post-concussion syndrome just entered its 11th year. I wasn't able to do much of anything for several months, certainly not programming, but also not reading, nor even watching TV for more than ~15 minutes at a time. A neuropsychological exam was extremely interesting, I thought, picking out the specific areas that were most affected. My "verbal fluency" dropped precipitously, for instance. While talking, my brain will sometimes just stop mid-sentence for several seconds, or I can't find the right words. It's like a stutter, but where someone stuttering knows the word they want to say, I can't get to that point.

Over that first year, though, things did slowly improve. I started working again, as a software developer, but only a couple hours a day. "Find a supportive employer" isn't helpful advice, I know, and I was extremely lucky I was working at such a place. The important piece, though, is that I was able to start finding routines and patterns with how much mental energy I'd have at different points in the day and week. Around the one year mark, I'd improved enough and found a routine that let me get back to working full time, but on an altered schedule. I work a few hours in the morning, take several hours off, then finish my day later on.

Experimenting to figure out how much I could do at a stretch, and what sort of breaks I needed in between working periods, let me understand my injury a lot more and adapt my life around it. I'd feel best Monday mornings, after a weekend, but if I didn't watch my work time like a hawk, I'd be useless come Thursday or Friday. There's the mental health "spoons" metaphor, where you get a certain number of spoons per day, then everything you do costs some number of them. When you're out of spoons, you're out, and there'll be stuff you just can't do. It's the same for me, but I think of it as a weekly thing. I get my 40 units of brain-on time each week or so. Working counts against that heavily, but even something like listening to music in the car runs down the clock.

So, all that said, first, you've got my deepest sympathies. I hope your condition improves soon!

As some more practical advice, practice advocating for yourself, and when you're unable to, try to find someone who can on your behalf. Don't be cagey about it either, but tell your friends why -- "Sorry, I can't, my headache is awful right now and I just need to be alone and quiet." Don't be afraid to cancel plans either. It's frustrating to have to do so, but if the result of attending is having to spend the next 24 hours in a dark room, it's probably not worth it. You might put some people off, but your friends will understand.

Next, find hobbies that don't tax your brain, or at least, don't tax your brain in the same way. Programming as a hobby is pretty much off the table for me, for instance. Doing crossword puzzles, though, seems like it exercises different parts of my mind. I designed and build a 3d printer, and continue to tinker with it. I've delved deeper into more aspects of photography. There are plenty of options, but the important thing is to find some things that won't drain you, leaving you able to do the work/school stuff you have to do, but also not making you sit idly by while you recollect your energy.

Finally, regarding work and school, I'd suggest avoiding freelance work. It's more stressful, since it'll be on you to continually find work. It's also easy to end up as the single person who can fix someone else's urgent problem, which is exactly what you don't want, especially early on during recovery. If you go to university, look for job resources there. There might be on-campus jobs to apply for, which would probably be part-time gigs, or something similar for external companies. Either way, try to develop relationships and prove your value to the staff and faculty, then parlay that into a longer-term role.

Once again, best of luck to you. I hope this has been helpful in some way -- if so (or if not), feel free to PM me if I can help, or you just want to vent about the neurotypicals.

Re: Ask HN: How to navigate the world as a brain-damaged 17 year old?

#45

Brains heal, but very slowly. (My wife has brain damage.) I recommend more rest for a few years. Also, learn to fight back hard.

Unfortunately fighting back in the UK could go either way, it's not like the American school bully in films, kids over here are getting increasingly groomed into criminal gangs and carrying knives etc. Depends where abouts the OP lives, but in some inner city schools especially, it could just escalate massively, sadly

Re: Ask HN: How to navigate the world as a brain-damaged 17 year old?

#46
I think the advice you've got here to try to slow down and give yourself a bit of time to recover is good. It feels at 17 like you have to charge into the future and not wait a second or opportunities will disappear, but it's not really like that at all. Independent adult life is so impossibly big that you can't hope to experience even a tiny fraction of it; what you miss out on will be replaced by things even better.

If you're in a position to hold off a year at school - delay your A levels medically - that might be good. You can keep up with some of the math and programming you enjoy, but don't make it a struggle. In the best case, neuroplasticity will come to the rescue and you'll find you're able to function at something close to your prior level. And if not, some time spent to grieve for the You that had Oxbridge and GCHQ dreams will be immensely worthwhile. You will find that your brain will either adapt and recover, or adapt and make you feel okay about who you are now - today you're fighting against that, and something will break.

The other thought I had is, is there anything that you feel now comes easily to you? Programming no, you mention your poor working memory. But are there other pursuits which feel less like you're pushing up hill? If you do take some time off you may want to start investigating other possible futures for you - things that don't rely on working memory or deep abstract thought.

Re: Ask HN: How to navigate the world as a brain-damaged 17 year old?

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>fight back hard Bad advice, especially in UK and in OP's age bracket. The UK has a sharp rise in knife incidents, moreso at younger ages. https://news.sky.com/story/fatal-stabbings-in-england-and-wa...

it is also worth pointing out that there is an nascent increase in guns in addition to knives now. Plus fighting back often leads to academic consequences even in cases of self defence. I was placed into a behavioural management program the one time I fought back.

I'd take that over permanent brain damage any day.

Re: Ask HN: How to navigate the world as a brain-damaged 17 year old?

#49
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it is also worth pointing out that there is an nascent increase in guns in addition to knives now. Plus fighting back often leads to academic consequences even in cases of self defence. I was placed into a behavioural management program the one time I fought back.

I'd take that over permanent brain damage any day.

Theoretically, but in the situation it's hard to percieve the threat level of your perpetrator and it can affect your education long term. Often bullies will be satisfied with only mild violence or insults, and trying but failing to defend yourself can often worsen matters and more permanent solutions are off the table thanks to criminal law.

Re: Ask HN: How to navigate the world as a brain-damaged 17 year old?

#50

Tough road, kid, tough road. I had pretty serious brain damage when I was a child -- dyspraxia, dysgraphia, a bunch of other poorly-understood stuff -- and even today I'm still patchy. I've learned to have NT people handle the stuff I don't, like calendaring (I can't do time zones at all ) and to be sensitive about tabulated data. I'm 51 now, and I've had a fairly successful career spanning a number of fields. Two le…

In case it's helpful: you can display multiple timezones side-by-side in Google Calendar. It lets you visualize what time it is for everyone when you're scheduling something.

It's a setting you have to configure: https://www.androidcentral.com/apps-software/how-to-show-mor...

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