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Re: BlockSuite: An open-source Notion-like editor with multiplayer support

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Post by Propelloni »

58x14 wrote: post #2

It seems like there's a lot of recent interest and effort in open-source or self-hosted Notion-like/markdown-with-widgets applications and platforms. AppFlowy ( https://github.com/AppFlowy-IO/AppFlowy ) comes to mind; I attended one of their monthly "town hall" meetings a few months back, and looks like they're rapidly increasing in popularity. I think there was another similar project like this on HN front page last…

AppFlowy looks nice. I get a project management tool vice from it. I have been using Zim Desktop Wiki for many years now, for pretty much the same reasons you mention, and I never had the idea "hey I need a kanban board in here". Why would I use AppFlowy for note-taking? What do you use it for?

Re: BlockSuite: An open-source Notion-like editor with multiplayer support

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Post by lopkeny12ko »

Does anyone else feel that the whole entire-canvas-is-editable-by-default approach of Notion and similar tools is an extremely annoying antipattern?

I want to be able to open a document in read-only mode. Otherwise, while just navigating through pages or reading content, it's far too easy to accidentally add text to a block by pressing anything on the keyboard, or move things around with an accidental drag of the mouse.

I've been reprimanded several times for errant edits to company wiki pages because of this...

Re: BlockSuite: An open-source Notion-like editor with multiplayer support

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Post by 16bitvoid »

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #12

Does anyone else feel that the whole entire-canvas-is-editable-by-default approach of Notion and similar tools is an extremely annoying antipattern? I want to be able to open a document in read-only mode. Otherwise, while just navigating through pages or reading content, it's far too easy to accidentally add text to a block by pressing anything on the keyboard, or move things around with an accidental drag of the mou…

I think you can lock a page to prevent editing on Notion, but I'm not sure if that's something only the owner of the document can do. A dedicated read-only mode would be useful though.

Re: BlockSuite: An open-source Notion-like editor with multiplayer support

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Post by jasonjmcghee »

ncallaway wrote: post #5
PurpleRamen wrote: post #4

Multiplayer? Is this a game? How extendable is this? Can I add my own blocks? And is this a commercial project with open core, or a truely open source-project?

> Multiplayer? Is this a game? Many document editors describe the “collaborative Google-docs like model” of multiple people working on the same document and seeing everyone’s updates in real time as “multiplayer”

Figma may have popularized its use in this context https://www.figma.com/blog/multiplayer-editing-in-figma/ (2016) and they've continued to use the term.

Re: BlockSuite: An open-source Notion-like editor with multiplayer support

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Post by mmh0000 »

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #12

Does anyone else feel that the whole entire-canvas-is-editable-by-default approach of Notion and similar tools is an extremely annoying antipattern? I want to be able to open a document in read-only mode. Otherwise, while just navigating through pages or reading content, it's far too easy to accidentally add text to a block by pressing anything on the keyboard, or move things around with an accidental drag of the mou…

If the company doesn’t want you editing pages, they should be locking them down. If the pages are left open I feel that it is safe to assume the right to edit. And I’d argue that until my boss absolutely hated me.

https://www.notion.so/help/sharing-and-permissions

Re: BlockSuite: An open-source Notion-like editor with multiplayer support

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Post by omniglottal »

ncallaway wrote: post #10
PurpleRamen wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First time I see this as far as I'm aware. Usually it's collaborative editing. Bit misleading.

Dunno what to tell you. It’s a term used (not super commonly, but not infrequently either) in the space. https://www.google.com/search?q=%22multiplayer%22+document+e... I don’t think it’s misleading, given the existing usage.

Misusage pre-existing does not make that existing usage not an abuse. Language is both prescriptive and descriptive - someone prescribing the wrong word is still wrong, as it fails to be accurately descriptive.

Re: BlockSuite: An open-source Notion-like editor with multiplayer support

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Post by madeofpalk »

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #12

Does anyone else feel that the whole entire-canvas-is-editable-by-default approach of Notion and similar tools is an extremely annoying antipattern? I want to be able to open a document in read-only mode. Otherwise, while just navigating through pages or reading content, it's far too easy to accidentally add text to a block by pressing anything on the keyboard, or move things around with an accidental drag of the mou…

First time I had a job that used Confluence as an idle tick i would just tick-untick-tick-untick the checkboxes on documents. I never realised that a) i was actually editing and saving the page, and b) it would send an email to the owner for every single tick/untick edit.

Re: BlockSuite: An open-source Notion-like editor with multiplayer support

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Post by PurpleRamen »

lopkeny12ko wrote: post #12

Does anyone else feel that the whole entire-canvas-is-editable-by-default approach of Notion and similar tools is an extremely annoying antipattern? I want to be able to open a document in read-only mode. Otherwise, while just navigating through pages or reading content, it's far too easy to accidentally add text to a block by pressing anything on the keyboard, or move things around with an accidental drag of the mou…

No, it's an editor, not a immutable website for consumption. The whole goal of them is that you can switch fast between editing and the rendered result. In that sense they are like word processors. But yes, adding an option for locking the document can be important, and usually they have them. I mean it's not even hard to implement. But probably not something people are mindful about.

Re: BlockSuite: An open-source Notion-like editor with multiplayer support

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Post by [deleted] »

mmh0000 wrote: post #15
lopkeny12ko wrote: post #12

Does anyone else feel that the whole entire-canvas-is-editable-by-default approach of Notion and similar tools is an extremely annoying antipattern? I want to be able to open a document in read-only mode. Otherwise, while just navigating through pages or reading content, it's far too easy to accidentally add text to a block by pressing anything on the keyboard, or move things around with an accidental drag of the mou…

If the company doesn’t want you editing pages, they should be locking them down. If the pages are left open I feel that it is safe to assume the right to edit. And I’d argue that until my boss absolutely hated me. https://www.notion.so/help/sharing-and-permissions

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