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US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by bbor »

kodah wrote: post #13
Simulacra wrote: post #6

What I find most fascinating about aliens and UFOs is that they always seem to be heading for America. If a UFO arrived from another galaxy it might choose any place to land, but talk is always America-centric. Do other countries feel so UFO special?

America is hardly special in their belief in UFOs: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reported_UFO_sightin... Generally UFO reportings increased with astronomy, radar, and surveillance technology development. Of which, the US has a lot of all three, which probably means we have a sufficiently complex system that we can notice anomalies but not sufficiently complex enough to identify them. You could've googled th…

They did end their comment with a question mark - no need to get snippy :)

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by slashdev »

DrThunder wrote: post #9

If you believe the government is capable of covering this up for decades then you must also believe they're just as capable of lying about UFO's existing for some other reason. I heard some guy saying they were actually demons, which I found quite funny/entertaining. Supposedly these aliens smell like sulfur badly. Maybe aliens/demons are the same thing? I guess we're gonna need the Doom Slayer.

Honestly I don’t think the government is sufficiently competent to cover up something as big as intelligent aliens arriving on earth. That’s the most exciting news ever. There’s just no way in my mind they could keep that quiet successfully.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

shiftpgdn wrote: post #22
bbor wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What scandal are you referring to…?

The president's son allegedly committed quite a few crimes, including offering access to his father (The US President) for money. He has been charged for some of these crimes recently.

He was charged with not paying taxes and felony gun possession and plead guilty to the tax charges (the felony will go to trial later). I've read nothing about access for money.

But I don't think anyone is ignoring it. Everyone is aware Hunter has had a troubled life and made bad choices. Everyone I've spoken to about this, even the left leaning, is of the opinion that if he broke the law he should face punishment. No one is on the other side of the issue here. The truly newsworthy bit is that he's been charged and facing consequences which, if we look at past presidential children, is the outlier.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by bbor »

waihtis wrote: post #17
conception wrote: post #8

There sure is a lot of UFO talk around the same time audio of a former president laughing about all the treason he’s committing. Probably just a coincidence.

As a non-American, let me ask you if you really think all the other high level American politicians are clean? If not, would you be better positioned to scrutinize the current political system as inherently flawed instead of barking at current political candidate X or Y?

Uhhhh not OP but yes I believe only one president has shown off classified material for money and power and ego. Disliking the system doesn’t mean we should abandon all critiques of politicians while we wait for our personal utopia to come about.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by rtlxcv »

For me, this article does not make Rubio's position clear. Previously, he had been involved in the UFO industrial complex:

https://reason.com/2022/11/15/the-military-ufo-complex/

I'm surprised that congress finally wants to stop the gravy train, unless this is another refined misdirection scheme. Probably a lot of that money went into covert operations.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by InCityDreams »

kodah wrote: post #13
Simulacra wrote: post #6

What I find most fascinating about aliens and UFOs is that they always seem to be heading for America. If a UFO arrived from another galaxy it might choose any place to land, but talk is always America-centric. Do other countries feel so UFO special?

America is hardly special in their belief in UFOs: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_reported_UFO_sightin... Generally UFO reportings increased with astronomy, radar, and surveillance technology development. Of which, the US has a lot of all three, which probably means we have a sufficiently complex system that we can notice anomalies but not sufficiently complex enough to identify them. You could've googled th…

You still trust Google to give good results? That (air)ship has long sailed...

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by taraharris »

If they're lying, they have a moral obligation to declassify everything they know.

If they're telling the truth, they have a moral obligation to declassify everything they know.

Official secrecy is fundamentally incompatible with the needs of an informed public capable of voting intelligently within a democratic republic.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by mike_hearn »

slashdev wrote: post #32
DrThunder wrote: post #9

If you believe the government is capable of covering this up for decades then you must also believe they're just as capable of lying about UFO's existing for some other reason. I heard some guy saying they were actually demons, which I found quite funny/entertaining. Supposedly these aliens smell like sulfur badly. Maybe aliens/demons are the same thing? I guess we're gonna need the Doom Slayer.

Honestly I don’t think the government is sufficiently competent to cover up something as big as intelligent aliens arriving on earth. That’s the most exciting news ever. There’s just no way in my mind they could keep that quiet successfully.

Exciting or terrifying? Seems like it would be highly dependent on context and how minor details get interpreted.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by nwienert »

slashdev wrote: post #32
DrThunder wrote: post #9

If you believe the government is capable of covering this up for decades then you must also believe they're just as capable of lying about UFO's existing for some other reason. I heard some guy saying they were actually demons, which I found quite funny/entertaining. Supposedly these aliens smell like sulfur badly. Maybe aliens/demons are the same thing? I guess we're gonna need the Doom Slayer.

Honestly I don’t think the government is sufficiently competent to cover up something as big as intelligent aliens arriving on earth. That’s the most exciting news ever. There’s just no way in my mind they could keep that quiet successfully.

Aliens that are alternate dimensional / advanced technologically could control the release of their existence through various means, while still having some incentive to reveal themselves in stages that seem plausible to us. Imagining them only as meat-sacks-from-another-rock is lacking imagination.

Re: US Congress doubles down on claims of illegal UFO retrieval programs

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Post by 7thaccount »

waihtis wrote: post #17
conception wrote: post #8

There sure is a lot of UFO talk around the same time audio of a former president laughing about all the treason he’s committing. Probably just a coincidence.

As a non-American, let me ask you if you really think all the other high level American politicians are clean? If not, would you be better positioned to scrutinize the current political system as inherently flawed instead of barking at current political candidate X or Y?

That's a good point other than the fact that it sounds like you're saying he doesn't need to be held accountable in a court of law for his numerous crimes. No politician should be exempt from the law.
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