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The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by nottorp »

theshrike79 wrote: post #136
jabbany wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Time zones still matter though. I have been in same-time-zone remote teams and different-time-zone ones. The dynamic is very different. Things that take minutes or hours when everyone is on roughly the same schedule, could easily drag on to a multiple day delay in a remote team that crosses many timezones. As for fully outsourced teams... They always could have done that even before remote work. Other factors seem to…

We've all been there: Them: Hello, 8-16 hours pass Me: Hello, did you need something? 8-16 hours pass Them: How are you? 8- 16 hours pass ..... https://www.nohello.com

Exactly. When you do async comms and have a question, skip the chit chat and just send the question and an appropriate infodump.

As a matter of fact, even when you chit chat do it in self contained units. You don't know how much time passes till your co workers read your joke in #general.

Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by [deleted] »

lynx23 wrote: post #191
HelloNurse wrote: post #176

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Nah, admin of course means rapist, didn't you know? WFH-advocates turning to "arguments" like your post is one reason why I oppose this new trend of entitlement. You people really think you are on top of the world and everyone has to dance to your tunes, right? I hope the market will fix this. Go and find a WFH company that lets you slack-off from home all day long. And then, shut up!

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Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by bbkane »

querez wrote: post #196
NKosmatos wrote: post #103

Once you’ve tasted the fruits of WFH and you like the taste, you’ll never go back. It’s like going from a black and white TV to a color one, from a dummy phone to a smartphone, from dialup internet to fiber to the home. You never go the other way round, unless there is a very strong reason and personal decision. People like to improve their lives in whatever way is best for them and will strongly object to a “downgra…

To each their own. I find that WFH makes me incredibly unproductive, I'm glad I'm able to return to to the office. I think there are a lot of factors that affect this (e.g. I have a family with small children at home, and my commute is <15 minutes by bike).

Yes, I'm in a similar situation- small kid at home, easy walking commute to a nice office with friendly coworkers, a gym, and free lunch

Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b »

NKosmatos wrote: post #103

Once you’ve tasted the fruits of WFH and you like the taste, you’ll never go back. It’s like going from a black and white TV to a color one, from a dummy phone to a smartphone, from dialup internet to fiber to the home. You never go the other way round, unless there is a very strong reason and personal decision. People like to improve their lives in whatever way is best for them and will strongly object to a “downgra…

I upgraded from a decent smartphone back to an old Nokia dummy phone with a black-and-white display, and have been using that for 3-4 years now. To each their own.

Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by ddevault »

querez wrote: post #196
NKosmatos wrote: post #103

Once you’ve tasted the fruits of WFH and you like the taste, you’ll never go back. It’s like going from a black and white TV to a color one, from a dummy phone to a smartphone, from dialup internet to fiber to the home. You never go the other way round, unless there is a very strong reason and personal decision. People like to improve their lives in whatever way is best for them and will strongly object to a “downgra…

To each their own. I find that WFH makes me incredibly unproductive, I'm glad I'm able to return to to the office. I think there are a lot of factors that affect this (e.g. I have a family with small children at home, and my commute is <15 minutes by bike).

Really done with this take. Show some solidarity for your peers. So you like working from the office -- good for you! Do that! But also stand up for your colleagues who don't want that. When your colleagues have fewer choices, when things like this are imposed on them, well, your preferences are not far behind from being managed themselves.

Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by ac2u »

ddevault wrote: post #205
querez wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To each their own. I find that WFH makes me incredibly unproductive, I'm glad I'm able to return to to the office. I think there are a lot of factors that affect this (e.g. I have a family with small children at home, and my commute is <15 minutes by bike).

Really done with this take. Show some solidarity for your peers. So you like working from the office -- good for you! Do that! But also stand up for your colleagues who don't want that. When your colleagues have fewer choices, when things like this are imposed on them, well, your preferences are not far behind from being managed themselves.

Where did the person you’re replying to imply they didn’t have solidarity or wanted office work imposed on everyone?

The parent poster simply said “Once you’ve tasted the fruits of WFH and you like the taste, you’ll never go back.”

And the reply was essentially “to each their own but my WFH experience was different “ and you’re ready to jump down their throat with accusations of lack of solidarity.

Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by WinstonSmith84 »

Head hunters and recruiters are very cognisant of this. Jobs are not advertised anymore as "outstanding compensation", "unlimited PTOs" or "great career perspective" but by "REMOTE". And like it used to be a lie that the compensation would be outstanding, it's often a lie that the position is truly remote. Then it's explained that for this remote position, you need to come 4 days per week in the office, and has a big benefit of one day from home - but not Friday nor Monday of course. Sneaky sneaky

Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by Etheryte »

querez wrote: post #196
NKosmatos wrote: post #103

Once you’ve tasted the fruits of WFH and you like the taste, you’ll never go back. It’s like going from a black and white TV to a color one, from a dummy phone to a smartphone, from dialup internet to fiber to the home. You never go the other way round, unless there is a very strong reason and personal decision. People like to improve their lives in whatever way is best for them and will strongly object to a “downgra…

To each their own. I find that WFH makes me incredibly unproductive, I'm glad I'm able to return to to the office. I think there are a lot of factors that affect this (e.g. I have a family with small children at home, and my commute is <15 minutes by bike).

This is such a nonsense argument. Your choice to return to the office is not somehow tied to other people being forced to be in the office.

Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by ddevault »

ac2u wrote: post #206
ddevault wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really done with this take. Show some solidarity for your peers. So you like working from the office -- good for you! Do that! But also stand up for your colleagues who don't want that. When your colleagues have fewer choices, when things like this are imposed on them, well, your preferences are not far behind from being managed themselves.

Where did the person you’re replying to imply they didn’t have solidarity or wanted office work imposed on everyone? The parent poster simply said “Once you’ve tasted the fruits of WFH and you like the taste, you’ll never go back.” And the reply was essentially “to each their own but my WFH experience was different “ and you’re ready to jump down their throat with accusations of lack of solidarity.

It's just such a pointless distraction. Don't make it about you? It reminds me of men who hear that women get paid less and start complaining about their own salary.

"Hey, we have this problem." "To each their own but it doesn't affect me!"

Why waste your breath to say this?

Re: The damaging results of mandated return to office

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Post by Balero »

Etheryte wrote: post #208
querez wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To each their own. I find that WFH makes me incredibly unproductive, I'm glad I'm able to return to to the office. I think there are a lot of factors that affect this (e.g. I have a family with small children at home, and my commute is <15 minutes by bike).

This is such a nonsense argument. Your choice to return to the office is not somehow tied to other people being forced to be in the office.

> To each their own.

They were giving another perspective, not forcing anyone to do anything.

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