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How Not To Sell Software in 2012

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Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#11
Although in principle I agree, I have to say this is simply naive and ignorant to the way things are done in other circles. If you were to purchase say Oracle licenses this way, there is no way this model would work.

You will not go to the Oracle app store and it will not have a database of all the large corporate IPs in the world with which it can reverse engineer your available funds and likely chain of purchase decision, and it will not then just put up a few million dollar for that year figure that you can click and instantly pay with your credit card.

Strippers must be witnessed, steaks must be consumed, conferences must be attended, rounds of golf must be played, lip service must be paid to ridiculous conceptual bugaboos, the purchasing bureaucracy must be reverse engineered, the chaff must be sorted from the wheat, starched collars must be preened, ignorant men in suits must be consulted as if their opinion had worth. And this is of course only the parodied incomplete summary of the entire horrifying affair.

Oracle and their ilk are feasting on elephants. Some would even fairly say mammoths; they are big, fat and move very slowly. The entire idea that a strategy could be formulated, evaluated, shopped for signatures to the relevant parties, signed off on by the law department, agreed to and generally made in the amount of time it takes to make a purchase with the paradigm offered as an example in this scenario is likely terrifying if not utterly extraterrestrial to them.

Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#12
Addendum:

1) Don't ask me why/when/where/how I will use my brand-new software

2) Don't force me to "try" other software just because I bought one

3) Don't force me to give you informations that are not strictly correlated with the purchase

Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#13
post #9

There is this space between "personal" and "enterprise" where this model works. Call it "startup" or "small business". I want something, I have a credit card, I buy, I move on. The less hassle the better. But in real enterprises, I don't have a credit card. I don't even have authority to purchase. (There is a whole department named "procurement" for that.) But I need to see "sales decks", do webinars, talk to salesme…

Spot on.

As an example of just how ridiculous it gets, we recently drafted an RFP for a solution for licensing our custom-made software to our customers and had a vendor come in with their solution. When it came time to discuss pricing, their response was "we charge based on the amount of revenue you'll be getting from the software...so just tell us how much money you're going to make from your software and we'll get a quote over to you." Of course we told them to take a hike, but not before speaking with their other large customers who actually agreed to this model. It's frustrating to be sure, but also completely expected at the enterprise level.

Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#14
Don’t automatically sign me up for a newsletter about your company or product when I give you my contact information. Ideally, don’t request my contact information at all until I’m giving you money.

I agree with the first part -- always ask people for permission, probably by kicking them a sweetener (e.g. "1 month email course on X"). I have data that I cannot show you which is in you-could-run-your-company-on-just-this-trick violent disagreement with the second point here. If you don't like email, cool, but email is worth serious money in B2B software sales. (So are salespeople, by the way, even at pricepoints lower than you'd think would warrant a salesman. Think "4 figure LTV." + )

Also, at the risk of stating the obvious, every email-deleting-salesmanship-hating engineer in the world could drop dead of a heart attack tomorrow and neither buyers or sellers of enterprise software would notice until several months later when trying to figure out why the sales engineers stopped submitting expense reports.

+ Addendum: Joel Spolsky's famous Camels and Rubber Duckies article talks about there being basically two price points for sales now, but a combination of a better delivery mechanisms - SaaS - and better sales procedures/technologies opens up a bunch of very interesting options in the middle for something between BCC $30 "Every email from a customer is a wonderful opportunity to fix that from happening ever again" and steak-dinners-and-Powerpoint-decks enterprise sales for $75k+.

I have some amount of knowledge about this these days, since I help my clients implement it. If you're interested in hearing more, say so, I'll try to blog it (some day when I get out from a mountain of work and email).

Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#15
post #5

i'm the ceo of a company that sells b2b software. we never sell a product for less than $2k annually, and our contracts are frequently in the 5 figures annually. our current sales cycle includes a lot of the negatives that you point out. however, we're up front with our pricing while our competitors aren't. we actually created a product that did nearly exactly what you said. we didn't get nearly as many customers wit…

Thanks, that is a great comment based on experience. Can you say more about your industry and/or path to success? What was most surprising? Do you have salespeople actively soliciting business or do most prospects find you? What advice would you give to startups planning to break into the b2b world?

Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#16
I don't think this is particular to software. It's just that software has the luxury of being transmittable electronically. Say your company needs some vehicles: buying one, two, three? Probably the same as a consumer. Buying 100-300? Need to start thinking about asset tracking, depreciation, maintenance & support contracts, etc. Does it even make sense on the balance sheet to buy or is leasing better? Enterprise sales have more to do with the structures of business than what is actually sold. This is why sales guys are often hired based on who've they sold to, rather than any product experience.

Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#17

  There's no software priced between $1000 and $75,000. I'll tell
  you why. The minute you charge more than $1000 you need to get
  serious corporate signoffs. You need a line item in their
  budget. You need purchasing managers and CEO approval and
  competitive bids and paperwork. So you need to send a
  salesperson out to the customer to do PowerPoint, with his
  airfare, golf course memberships, and $19.95 porn movies at the
  Ritz Carlton. And with all this, the cost of making one
  successful sale is going to average about $50,000. If you're
  sending salespeople out to customers and charging less than
  $75,000, you're losing money.

  The joke of it is, big companies protect themselves so well
  against the risk of buying something expensive that they
  actually drive up the cost of the expensive stuff, from $1000
  to $75000, which mostly goes towards the cost of jumping all
  the hurdles that they set up to insure that no purchase can
  possibly go wrong.
Joel Spolsky, Camels and Rubber Duckies http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/CamelsandRubberDuckie...

The second paragraph is the key. Alex, these people aren’t trying to piss you off, they’re being driven by what BigCo wants from them. BigCo won’t let a manager try some software and declare that it meets their needs. BigCo demands that vendors respond to RFPs and RFQs, and if one vendor puts no-nonsense pricing on their web site, all of their competitors will undercut them by a penny or so and they won’t get any sales.

I could go on, but Joel has made the point: These annoying vendors have evolved to sell to those annoying customers. It isn’t the vendors that need to go extinct, it’s BigCo. BigCo buys cloud services in 2012 the way it bought time sharing in 1972, so the vendors are still using 1972 sales processes in 2012.

Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#18
post #9

There is this space between "personal" and "enterprise" where this model works. Call it "startup" or "small business". I want something, I have a credit card, I buy, I move on. The less hassle the better. But in real enterprises, I don't have a credit card. I don't even have authority to purchase. (There is a whole department named "procurement" for that.) But I need to see "sales decks", do webinars, talk to salesme…

Having spent the last year on a procurement project I agree, when it's millions of pounds at stake (much more in potential benefits) the sales process is necessarily protracted. However, I agree about the pricing games. In my experience, companies give a massive list price (but don't answer questions about how many companies actually pay that price - I figure none) and then argue the "discount" percentage.

Stoney silence in pricing discussions my side is the way to get to a price that's worth talking about, months can elapse though, it's tiresome.

Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#19
Remember this is written from a technical person's point of view. If you are selling to technical customers by all means give them a try now button and get out of their way. But if you are selling to project managers, marketers, or upper management, you should take his Don'ts list with a grain of salt.

- Edit for typos

Re: How Not To Sell Software in 2012

#20

There's no software priced between $1000 and $75,000. I'll tell you why. The minute you charge more than $1000 you need to get serious corporate signoffs. You need a line item in their budget. You need purchasing managers and CEO approval and competitive bids and paperwork. So you need to send a salesperson out to the customer to do PowerPoint, with his airfare, golf course memberships, and $19.95 porn movies at the…

Right on! This should be titled "How not to sell software that costs under $1000 in 2012" because the do/don'ts obviously are wrong for non-cheap software.
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