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Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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This is the way. I have a PiHole running in EC2 and I just VPN into it. The VPN is configured so that only DNS goes through it, so I don't tunnel all my traffic through it and pay for lots of egress. Could easily run the VPN through something local, of course, but I prefer to expose as little as possible on my home network.

How expensive is this?

Not my solution, but a t2.micro is probably $7/mo.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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I don't. I think adblocking is a form of petty theft. If something has too much ads, I don't use it or pay for the ad-free version. I pay for YouTube Premium. Also adblocking does reduce some experiences. Some sites will tell you to disable it, and that's more irritating than the ad banners. I had conversation with my daughter on how games used to have no ads but now they're chock full of ads, but TV has no ads now b…

Advertising is manipulation. The advertisers are literally trying to convince you to buy something you didn’t want to buy. They use every psychological trick available to overcome your resistance.

By this rationale you should also feel obligated to buy everything that everyone advertises to you, since they paid for the ad specifically to get you to buy.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the way. I have a PiHole running in EC2 and I just VPN into it. The VPN is configured so that only DNS goes through it, so I don't tunnel all my traffic through it and pay for lots of egress. Could easily run the VPN through something local, of course, but I prefer to expose as little as possible on my home network.

How expensive is this?

~$7.20/month for a t3.micro instance + $1.60/month for 20 GB of block storage, plus a penny or two for the bandwidth usage.

But you could do it cheaper than that. A t3.nano is ~$3.60/month and could easily handle running the PiHole, and you could probably get away with only 10 GB of block storage, possibly even less. I choose to use a t3.micro and 20 gig because I do other stuff with my instance.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

#104
I don't use adblockers.

I want to experience web as it is.

If it's unusable I don't use it.

So I can see how ads changed over time. Used practices seem more desperate nowadays, sometimes it's like year 2K again. Even google is using interstitials with misleading controls.

After all, I'm paid with advertising money like most people in the big tech...

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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Can you outline how you're doing system-wide as blocking? That's news to me!

There's a few notable differences between android and iOS as far as adblocking is concerned: 1) Android lets you install other browsers and use them as default. Some of these, like Firefox or Brave or Vivaldi, include adblocking software that works everywhere, even YouTube. Whereas on iOS, even if you install chrome, it's just a reskinned safari because Apple refuses third parties proper access to the system. https:/…

1) iOS let’s let’s you use a different browser as default. Safari also allows extensions which provide excellent adblocking.

3) this can also be done on iOS.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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I don't. I think adblocking is a form of petty theft. If something has too much ads, I don't use it or pay for the ad-free version. I pay for YouTube Premium. Also adblocking does reduce some experiences. Some sites will tell you to disable it, and that's more irritating than the ad banners. I had conversation with my daughter on how games used to have no ads but now they're chock full of ads, but TV has no ads now b…

Advertising is manipulation. The advertisers are literally trying to convince you to buy something you didn’t want to buy. They use every psychological trick available to overcome your resistance. By this rationale you should also feel obligated to buy everything that everyone advertises to you, since they paid for the ad specifically to get you to buy.

Don't overthink it lol. You're only obligated to ignore the ads. The company gets its ad money. Advertisers paying for views pay for views.

There are models where they pay per download and pay per purchase, but as long as they're not doing that, you're not obligated to do those things.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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I don't. I think adblocking is a form of petty theft. If something has too much ads, I don't use it or pay for the ad-free version. I pay for YouTube Premium. Also adblocking does reduce some experiences. Some sites will tell you to disable it, and that's more irritating than the ad banners. I had conversation with my daughter on how games used to have no ads but now they're chock full of ads, but TV has no ads now b…

I'm not sure if you read his comments, but he's paying $10 a month for the paid version of Bloomberg and they're still slamming him with ads so I'm not sure how it's considered "petty theft."

It's overpriced, but still the price. Not all theft is illegal, nor unethical. Killing is something that's almost always unethical. But kill a tyrant and it's ethical.

Stealing from a company that has already charged you a subscription fee might be ethical. But I don't enable adblock because it also means I'm stealing on autopilot from other sites that I may want to support.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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I don't. I think adblocking is a form of petty theft. If something has too much ads, I don't use it or pay for the ad-free version. I pay for YouTube Premium. Also adblocking does reduce some experiences. Some sites will tell you to disable it, and that's more irritating than the ad banners. I had conversation with my daughter on how games used to have no ads but now they're chock full of ads, but TV has no ads now b…

I'm nearly 40, which is irrelevant except as to say that I fully remember "the time of ads", and I couldn't disagree more. I don't think adblocking is a petty form of theft, I think it's prudent, as ads are often security risks - not to mention don't include proper privacy settings but still try to track you against your will. Which is illegal in my part (EU) of the world. I'll try to support in other ways if I think…

Futurama is one examples. Ads usually kick in on a cliffhanger or to emphasize a punchline. This was a popular narrative technique back in the day. It might be why sitcoms worked fine for decades but never really carried over to the VOD era.

Not ads, but the best example of a dramatic interruption are the first two seasons of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, where the hero is screwed and then it cuts out into the Roundabout song. This is a lot less dramatic when you can just binge watch things and don't have to wait a week for the next.

Whereas Netflix shows tend to fill it with fluff, things like side drama, background stories, and redundant plot elements. I know I can skip the ad, but I don't really know if I can skip story details. I end up watching something like Squid Game on 2x speed.

Re: Ask HN: Does anybody not use an adblocker?

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I do use adblockers, so much so that I basically only use android because of all the system-wide adblocking capabilities, including youtube ads. I occasionally switch off adblockers to see what the rest of the world sees. Within seconds I am shocked every single time. Some sites I use are unusable without adblockers. The youtube experience is attrocious without adblockers. Amazon products are impossible to find witho…

Can you outline how you're doing system-wide as blocking? That's news to me!

You can use NextDNS on any internet connected device and enable ad-blocking on all connections for the whole device. Works great on MacOS and iPhone and it's easy to setup.
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