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Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by inferiorhuman »

aflag wrote: post #195
inferiorhuman wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with how the term woke is currently used vis a vis American politics. It's a pejorative typically used as the foundation of a disingenuous argument about being respectful towards others or as a way of demonizing anything you disagree with. Woke was used in line with its most common meaning and scare quotes were added. It wasn't a mistake and the context was made explicit (offending people).…

Woke used to be an endearing term at some point. You're assuming that the quotes are there to poke fun of it, they could be there because it's a foreign or coloquial term that the author is a bit unsure about too. You have not to lose by assuming good intention until irrevocably proven wrong. The US, being influential, ends up exporting a lot of its internal politics, however other parts of the world don't necessaril…

  I've seen people in Brazil
We're talking about an American term (ABCD), not a Brazilian one.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by lionelholt »

lewisjoe wrote: post #178
no_butterscotch wrote: post #4

I wonder if this turmeric spread and was sold in the West. My mother recently started taking "golden turmeric" and insists that it's a cure for a lot of ills. Maybe that's true I don't know, she sent me some articles a couple years ago. It was clear that she was influenced by Facebook groups. Hopefully the turmeric she takes is safe :(

Please ask her to stop taking turmeric often. I couldn't find the source, but I remember a liver specialist on twitter, calling out on such practice. He explained how he had patients with liver failure specifically due to regular turmeric intake, sold as natural medicine. Please inform this to her.

Doctors aren't necessarily scientists. Anecdotal evidence isn't as strong as randomized controlled trials to establish causation. It could have been the high fat content of many recipes that call for turmeric.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by Eisenstein »

mech987987 wrote: post #198
Eisenstein wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You are assuming the intent of the poster. Your "civil rights" example does not capture the same (ambiguous) spirit that the poster's use of "woke" captures. I gave the benefit of the doubt and a warning that they might be misinterpreted. > As far as I can perceive it, the majority of people haven't arrived at the conclusion that woke is a slur. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle_(politics)

If you had really given them the benefit of the doubt, you would not have implicitly shamed them for using the language they chose to use. Or explicitly shamed me for defending their choice of language.

They used terminology in a way that carries implications. If by pointing that out I brought them 'shame' then so be it (and notice how they never decided to contradict the 'if you don't care' part, so let's not give benefit of the doubt any more).

If you feel ashamed for me arguing against you, then you shouldn't as long as you were doing it out of ignorance and in good faith. However just because you are not aware of or don't believe certain things does not make them cease to exist.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by mech765 »

Eisenstein wrote: post #204
mech987987 wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you had really given them the benefit of the doubt, you would not have implicitly shamed them for using the language they chose to use. Or explicitly shamed me for defending their choice of language.

They used terminology in a way that carries implications. If by pointing that out I brought them 'shame' then so be it (and notice how they never decided to contradict the 'if you don't care' part, so let's not give benefit of the doubt any more). If you feel ashamed for me arguing against you, then you shouldn't as long as you were doing it out of ignorance and in good faith. However just because you are not aware o…

(posting from cell w/ other account)

You haven't given any indication that you have considered any of my points in any meaningful way. I'm just gonna accept the fact that you want to continue your linguistic mission and disengage. Judging by your comment history you have a habit of winning wars of attrition.

Please at least consider the idea that being the censorious force in the world can worsen the quality of discussion.

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Post by sacnoradhq »

no_butterscotch wrote: post #4

I wonder if this turmeric spread and was sold in the West. My mother recently started taking "golden turmeric" and insists that it's a cure for a lot of ills. Maybe that's true I don't know, she sent me some articles a couple years ago. It was clear that she was influenced by Facebook groups. Hopefully the turmeric she takes is safe :(

The integrity of health and wellness products is always suspect. The MMS people are especially wingnuts.

It makes me think small-scale sales of spices, compounds, and ingredients on Amazon are at risk for adulteration.

Perhaps what we need is a simplified bluetooth mass spectrometer device with an app setup for testing purity of powdered substances from foods to medications. This seems like a ready-made Kickstarter project an Ivy/Pac-12 engineering bio+ee team could handle. MEMS devices using cheap IR photonics are in the pipe (no pun intended). Gas chrom is like listening to music on vinyl.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by Eisenstein »

mech765 wrote: post #205
Eisenstein wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They used terminology in a way that carries implications. If by pointing that out I brought them 'shame' then so be it (and notice how they never decided to contradict the 'if you don't care' part, so let's not give benefit of the doubt any more). If you feel ashamed for me arguing against you, then you shouldn't as long as you were doing it out of ignorance and in good faith. However just because you are not aware o…

(posting from cell w/ other account) You haven't given any indication that you have considered any of my points in any meaningful way. I'm just gonna accept the fact that you want to continue your linguistic mission and disengage. Judging by your comment history you have a habit of winning wars of attrition. Please at least consider the idea that being the censorious force in the world can worsen the quality of discu…

> You haven't given any indication that you have considered any of my points in any meaningful way.

You are right. I need to work on not being so dismissive.

I think this correspondence would have been more appropriate and fruitful as an 'essay'/'counter-essay' instead of this social media format which tends to drive me to look for a decisive, pithy 'win'.

Sorry for railroading you and thank you for being courteous.

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Post by lynx23 »

mech765 wrote: post #205
Eisenstein wrote: post #204

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They used terminology in a way that carries implications. If by pointing that out I brought them 'shame' then so be it (and notice how they never decided to contradict the 'if you don't care' part, so let's not give benefit of the doubt any more). If you feel ashamed for me arguing against you, then you shouldn't as long as you were doing it out of ignorance and in good faith. However just because you are not aware o…

(posting from cell w/ other account) You haven't given any indication that you have considered any of my points in any meaningful way. I'm just gonna accept the fact that you want to continue your linguistic mission and disengage. Judging by your comment history you have a habit of winning wars of attrition. Please at least consider the idea that being the censorious force in the world can worsen the quality of discu…

Thanks for taking the time to stand up to this kind of arguing. As a non-native speaker, I definitely dont have the stamina to enter a real discussion with this type of person.

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Post by Eisenstein »

lynx23 wrote: post #208
mech765 wrote: post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(posting from cell w/ other account) You haven't given any indication that you have considered any of my points in any meaningful way. I'm just gonna accept the fact that you want to continue your linguistic mission and disengage. Judging by your comment history you have a habit of winning wars of attrition. Please at least consider the idea that being the censorious force in the world can worsen the quality of discu…

Thanks for taking the time to stand up to this kind of arguing. As a non-native speaker, I definitely dont have the stamina to enter a real discussion with this type of person.

Why don't you ask them what they think about your behavior in this conversation?

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by heywhatupboys »

ramesh31 wrote: post #59
heywhatupboys wrote: post #13

This article screams "white american saviour" WHO in 2023 writes like this?? > Food Safety authority representatives, flanked by soldiers in camouflage uniforms, magenta berets and guns slung over their shoulders, strode down the center of a busy street market in Dhaka, the capital city. The crowds parted. > Men riding three-wheeled rickshaws pulled over. Street vendors stopped stirring their aromatic curries. The sp…

>WHO in 2023 writes like this?? All websites do, as their staff is entirely comprised of 23 year old English majors who equate this style with "good writing". The entire internet reads like a C+ sophomore term paper now.

oh my, I feel sheltered from bad blog posts-as-news, you have ruined the allegory I had of modern articles
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