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Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by madars »

lttlrck wrote: post #339
madars wrote: post #328

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Don't forget making SMS in unreadable neon green (to the point that it violates Apple's own accessibility guidelines https://archive.is/4nSWV ) "iMessage on Android would simply serve to remove [an] obstacle to iPhone families giving their kids Android phones" -- an actual quote from the SVP of Software Engineering in charge of iOS, revealed in Epic Games v Apple court discovery https://storage.courtlistener.com/reca…

SMS messages have always been green on iOS. Since before iMessage existed. I don't recall ever having trouble reading them.

They deliberately reduced the contrast. Compare iOS 5 when iMessage came out: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/archive/09-27... and now: https://images.macworld.co.uk/cmsdata/features/3468389/how_t... This underscores GP's point: Apple is expert at making anti-consumer decisions that fall just inside the Overton window.

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Post by hospitalJail »

eldaisfish wrote: post #311
lowercased wrote: post #291

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> but there are zero Android phones of a usable size available for purchase. So iPhone it is. My local dollar store has a couple of prepaid android 5.5" phones. Not much size diff from my iphone 12 mini. Point still taken though - 'regular' sized phones from 6 years ago are mostly gone from the mainstream market. I really hope there's another mini or a bumped up iphone se. I would like them to keep the physical home…

those android phones will have terrible materials, terrible internals and non-existent support. Their existence doesn't really say much. I also dislike many things apple does but all too often, their hardware quality is good and lasts a long time. I'm still using a 2014 macbook. it is on its last legs but eight years out of a piece of tech is borderline amazing.

>it is on its last legs but eight years out of a piece of tech is borderline amazing.

I think that is pretty normal. I'm still using my 2014 $700 Asus 'gaming laptop' for CAD, emulators, gaming, etc.... Only reason I even upgraded was so I could have 6gb VRAM for various AI purposes.

Time for my kid to use it for a few years... Then I'll turn it into a server.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by Barrin92 »

umvi wrote: post #329

I would use edge if I could have shared bookmarks, passwords, etc with chrome (not simply import). But since I can't there's no point to using a Windows only browser when I also use Linux

Edge has been available on linux for a while https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/edge/download?form=MA13FJ&ch

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by bombela »

dmitrygr wrote: post #317
trelane wrote: post #304

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Or you could run Linux on Linux hardware and get the full hardware support and sweet battery life without the Microsoft spyware.

> sweet battery life Linux has never been this, and likely never will be. On any hardware supported fully by both, Windows will always have better battery life. Back when I was a thinkpad user, i'd literally live in a vmware workstation linux VM on windows, and THIS had better battery life than linux natively on the same thinkpad.

I came to assume the battery only exists to act as an uninterruptible power supply as I travel to the next power outlet ;)

It feels like over the past 10y Linux only went from 2h to 3h of battery life. While MacBook went from 3h to 13h.

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Post by pleb_nz »

dmitrygr wrote: post #317
trelane wrote: post #304

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Or you could run Linux on Linux hardware and get the full hardware support and sweet battery life without the Microsoft spyware.

> sweet battery life Linux has never been this, and likely never will be. On any hardware supported fully by both, Windows will always have better battery life. Back when I was a thinkpad user, i'd literally live in a vmware workstation linux VM on windows, and THIS had better battery life than linux natively on the same thinkpad.

I had a Lenovo p15 running fedora for a while and got 6 to 8 hours battery life whilst working which was approx. the same as the original OEM windows install. So it might be a case by case situation.

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Post by vladvasiliu »

SebastianKra wrote: post #305
acomjean wrote: post #89

Its getting worse everywhere: some things I've noticed: Mobil Safari seems to be using the search bar to hijack my google search (Particularly for locations which open in apple maps) Although I'm mostly linux these days I went to install an alternative browser on a windows machine (using edge to download). I mentioned this in another post, but edge seems to watch for "chrome" or "firefox" downloads and politely remin…

Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are. Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS…

> The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better

What do you mean by this? I have an iPhone but don't have airpods, just "regular" BT headphones. Under windows, they're hit or miss (sometimes they don't reconnect), but they work pretty well under iOS and mac os. They work best under linux (!), especially since it's the only one to support LDAC (though I understand some non-sony android phones may support this now).

So, if somehow apple came out with a way of making BT headphones work even better (what do they do better?), I don't see why you'd hold that against them. Should they not innovate just so that the competition doesn't get upset?

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by clnq »

regularjack wrote: post #335

Edit: I was wrong, it opens in Edge. I dislike Microsoft as much as the next person, but AFAICT this is about opening the link inside Outlook, in a sidepane: > ... browser links from the Outlook app will open in Microsoft Edge by default, right alongside the email they’re from in the Microsoft Edge sidebar pane. Also the title has been editorialized here, the original title describes what is actually happening: > Out…

No, it opens in full Edge and then it shows your email in the new Edge toolbar/sidebar.

Re: Outlook now ignores Windows' Default Browser and opens links in Edge by default

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Post by Eduard »

codetrotter wrote: post #324
SebastianKra wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple are experts are experts at creating these patterns that fall just at the edge of being classified as anti-consumer, to the point where you frequently find heated discussions about whether they are. Battery throtteling on the iPhone 6s; The sandboxing / sideloading discussion; The no-iCloud experience; The way that regular bluetooth headsets work fine, but AirPods work even better; How unauthorized Apps on MacOS…

Google seems just as bad tbh. The only browser I have installed on my phone is Safari but when I click links in YouTube it always asks which browser I want to open the link in. Safari or Chrome. No I don’t want to install your shit browser on my phone Google. Kindly frick off.

> Google seems just as bad tbh.

It is a difference for Google to advertise their browser on their properties (eg Youtube) versus Apple hijacking the search bar of some other browser, and in general not allowing third parties to provide full browsers in the Apple App Store (and not just a shim which mandatorily has to use Safari behind the curtains)

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Post by pc2g4d »

Recently went all-Linux on my new workstation, and news like this makes clear that it was the right move to give up on Windows completely. I dual-booted for... 20 years? Just not worth it anymore. The disk storage reclaimed, the file system partitioning undone, the user-hostile patterns avoided. Couldn't be happier.

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Post by vladvasiliu »

dmitrygr wrote: post #317
trelane wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or you could run Linux on Linux hardware and get the full hardware support and sweet battery life without the Microsoft spyware.

> sweet battery life Linux has never been this, and likely never will be. On any hardware supported fully by both, Windows will always have better battery life. Back when I was a thinkpad user, i'd literally live in a vmware workstation linux VM on windows, and THIS had better battery life than linux natively on the same thinkpad.

I don't know what you mean by "supported", but the HP EliteBook 845 G8 (amd 5650u) I'm typing this on has noticeably better battery life under Linux than Windows. Ditto for its cousin with an 11th gen i7. They get around 5-6 hours on Linux, and around 4 on Windows. Windows also likes to spin those fans while sitting around doing nothing.

Oh, HP recommends Windows 11 (tm) (r) (c). Both worked 100% from day 1 on Linux. But both laptops had issues during the first year under windows (no webcam on the amd, boken external screen output on the intel), so maybe they don't qualify as "supported by both".

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