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Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States, Canada and Mexico

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Re: Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States, Canada and Mexico

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

throw0101a wrote: post #8

Will SAE (or IEC?) take over the stewardship of the port at some point? (AIUI, the comm protocol is (will be?) CCS/IEC 61851?)

> Will SAE (or IEC?) take over the stewardship of the port at some point?

Something like that [1].

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/06/27/tesla-ele...

Re: Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States, Canada and Mexico

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Post by flutas »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9
b0sk wrote: post #3

CCS is done.

> CCS is done Who are the remaining CCS adherents?

Hyundai is one I know of, but they've put out a "we're looking into swapping" statement.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/23/23771215/hyundai-investor...

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Post by notyourwork »

nharada wrote: post #2

Good. Great. As long as there's just one, I don't care which.

My only concern with one is that we're giving one private company a monopoly on it. Is that good, I'm not sure but in general it's usually not good for consumers.

Re: Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States, Canada and Mexico

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Post by hedora »

It's pretty shocking that all the charge networks are getting rug pulled because they couldn't figure out how to accept payment reliably.

I wonder if Tesla has figured that out for third-party automobiles yet. (I mean, I assume they have, but I assumed the other charge networks would be able to obtain working credit card readers, and that definitely didn't happen.)

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Post by dghughes »

nharada wrote: post #2

Good. Great. As long as there's just one, I don't care which.

My Canadian town of 70,000 has about 100 public CCS charging stations but one for Telsa. So no not great. It's already there so why are they switching?

A GM executive was on the news saying how Canadians complained in a survey there were not enough charging stations. I say BS. This sudden study appears and contradicts the 10:1 ratio of CCS to Tesla charger in my town?

Re: Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States, Canada and Mexico

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Post by flutas »

notyourwork wrote: post #16
nharada wrote: post #2

Good. Great. As long as there's just one, I don't care which.

My only concern with one is that we're giving one private company a monopoly on it. Is that good, I'm not sure but in general it's usually not good for consumers.

Looks like SAE is writing standards for it, so doesn't seem like the monopoly power is going to be there.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/06/27/tesla-ele...

Re: Volvo Cars Adopts Tesla's NACS Port in the United States, Canada and Mexico

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Post by nekoashide »

WaxProlix wrote: post #7
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #4

I wonder how the 800V car manufacturers will respond.

Good question. They'll be understandably unhappy that their competitive advantage is being muscled away. I worry about the future innovation that was planned for these companies that are moving from CCS to Tesla, as adopting it really does put an upper bound on charge speeds. Definitely a big win for Tesla across the board.

It needed to happen, between the existing Tesla network and the IIJA upcoming spending on a charging network it will make EV adoption happen much faster. Competing standards only hurts the consumers and will slow EV adoption.
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