Tea is really ingrained in Irish culture. I used to get tea in my flask for school from 7 upwards. Jam sandwiches and tea.
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The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland
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Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland
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And I thought it was only the English who have such a close relationship to tea!
> only the English who have such a close relationship to tea ... excluding Japan, China, Russia, all of Central Asia (where I am from), and probably many other countries. So typical for HN.
This isnt helpful - they are updating their priors publicly, and your implicit expectation that they should already know is absurd.
Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland
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If you have better sources than the ones on Wikipedia you're welcome to edit it.
The linked Statista source itself doesn't match the ranking in the article. And surprise, surprise it does include India
Someone removed India a few month ago for some reason: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_countries...
Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland
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Accepting anything offered to you on the first offer is a bit rude. Basically, you are a guest of someone and shouldn't be a burden on them. They have to prove to you that you are not a burden, and then once that is clear you don't feel bad being served. Then your tea comes with cake, ham sandwiches and biscuit which is beyond the scope of the initial drink you were offered.
very culturally dependent. In Germany, the first offer is the offer. If you refuse it, there will not be a second one; and making a second, third offer, in turn, would be rude in Germany, as it is pestering and assumes I'm lying with the first answer or I don't know what I want. How dare you assume this? :D The English always think the Germans terribly rude. In turn, Germans find these English (also Irish, I guess) c…
I sometimes meet foreigners who have been to Poland and learned a few phrases from the locals. Usually "How are you" is among them only because they have specifically requested this to be translated, but I've never heard this being used as a greeting in my entire life.
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Why "hate"? I personally find fascinating that kind of implicit cultural rules.
Because once you see the pattern it can become an oppressive social requirement. I'm american but have been living in Czechia for about 15 years, and I've seen friendships blown up due to shit like "we visited and he didn't even offer us lunch", or "she didn't even offer to pay for lunch". It's fun when you are a visitor and you can view it from a distance, but when it's the local unaware social OS, it's got a far di…
> There's absolutely no "I was in the neighborhood and thought I'd pop in and see what you're up to".
we used the side door for informal visits
the front door was only for parties
Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland
#76Truth be told, boiling tea leaves continuously does extract all the tanins and could lead to gastric distress for some. Better to make the tea the usual way and then keep it warm. You can use the leaves multiple times, though.
I remember when the TV show Broadchurch came out, and David Tennant's character made tea in the microwave, and there was national uproar in Britain. Later several scientific articles pointed out this is actually a better way to make tea. This event, along with Brexit and Covid, will surely be recognised by historians as the beginning of the downfall of the UK
Maybe i am just showing my age or tea snobbery, but don't tea bags have metal clips anymore?
Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
Accepting anything offered to you on the first offer is a bit rude. Basically, you are a guest of someone and shouldn't be a burden on them. They have to prove to you that you are not a burden, and then once that is clear you don't feel bad being served. Then your tea comes with cake, ham sandwiches and biscuit which is beyond the scope of the initial drink you were offered.
very culturally dependent. In Germany, the first offer is the offer. If you refuse it, there will not be a second one; and making a second, third offer, in turn, would be rude in Germany, as it is pestering and assumes I'm lying with the first answer or I don't know what I want. How dare you assume this? :D The English always think the Germans terribly rude. In turn, Germans find these English (also Irish, I guess) c…
I remember an implicit rule in India that politeness comes in 3 waves, 1st is always ignored, 2nd too, only when you mention something a 3rd time then you can be honest and serious.
Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland
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Tea drinking in Ireland is a big part of the culture, and we have a lot of unwritten rules around it. I'm sure other irish HN'ers will jump in here and add to the list, but off the top of my head - if you don't offer someone tea when they come to visit, you are rude. if they refuse, and you accept their first offer without insisting, that's also rude. you have to persist a bit. this was parodied in the TV show "Fathe…
If someone asks me a question, I give a clear answer, and they ask the same question again, I consider them rude and obnoxious. It feels like talking down to someone, not qanting to accept their answer. I hate that behaviour. Although, I know it is part of a social dance, I strongly believe these dances need to be abolished.
> It feels like talking down to someone, not wanting to accept their answer.
In Ireland at least, it's not talking down, but rather making the assumption that the other person is refusing only out of politeness, so as not to inconvenience you, but actually would love a cup of tea, because, well, who wouldn't?
If someone refuses tea with a good reason, like they don't drink tea, or they are had too much caffeine already today, or it's too hot, we don't argue with them