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Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by Eisenstein »

lynx23 wrote: post #158
Eisenstein wrote: post #148

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Do you agree that 'woke' is a loaded word? Do you agree that by using that word in that way it signals a certain type of political/ideological viewpoint? Do you agree that if someone did not want to signal that viewpoint it they should know?

No, No, and No. Simply because I dont agree with language police, as a principle.

You can call things 'language police' all you want, but assumptions are based on reality and experience, and pushing back when they are obviously true is silly.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by autoexec »

EricE wrote: post #52
dunham wrote: post #17

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I buy from thespicehouse.com - they seem to be careful, but I haven't inquired about turmeric. I should send them an email. (I prefer them over Penzey's, which is the same family, because they have dried fenugreek leaves.)

seconded - high quality and friendly service. Hard to ask for more.

Unless you maybe want to ask for proof that they test their products for lead. That seems pretty easy.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by londons_explore »

athenot wrote: post #124
londons_explore wrote: post #66

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I don't really want lead in my plastic or my furniture either... In fact, I think there would be a good case for simply banning all mining of lead. Nearly all remaining uses of it (bullets, roof flashing, counterweights, car batteries) seem to still have a pretty high risk of contamination of either the environment or the workers who make or recycle products.

It's used medically, for example for nurses and doctors who work with radioactive tracers; they wear big aprons with lead in it which absorb any radiation that would be ok once in a while but that you don't want exposed to every single day at work.

True - but lead doesn't actually perform much better than say steel, per unit weight.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by autoexec »

Gigachad wrote: post #117
Tozen wrote: post #74

People and companies knowingly contaminating food products with poisons like lead, should be put in jail. Companies knowingly selling such products, should be at least heavily fined, possibly prosecuted as well. Bottom line, this is clearly poisoning (and killing people) to make a few extra bucks. There should be no leniency whatsoever for this clear evil.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal 54,000 hospitalized and 6 dead from intentional milk contamination > A number of trials were conducted by the Chinese government resulting in two executions, three sentences of life imprisonment, two 15-year prison sentences, and the firing or forced resignation of seven local government officials and the Director of the Administration of Quality Supervision, In…

China does a lot of things wrong, but they're closer to right than the US on this stuff!

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by aflag »

IggleSniggle wrote: post #159
victor106 wrote: post #98

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Whether or not something is offensive almost always depends on context. Knowing your context requires careful listening and respect for those around you. This is true regardless of whether or not you use one particular term or not. If you do not intend to be respectful, then was there ever any issue in the first place? Your disrespect will be conveyed regardless. If you do intend to be respectful, then you will know…

> If you do intend to be respectful, then you will know if using it is offensive or not in your given context.

It's very easy to intend to be respectful but misread the context. Also, there are words that are so taboo they are not ok in any context.

I find it particularly hard to navigate the English taboos from a non native perspective. I believe the person asking wants to know how the word is seen by others, which is great in my opinion. Direct communication is much better than trying to guess.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by inferiorhuman »

aflag wrote: post #165
IggleSniggle wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether or not something is offensive almost always depends on context. Knowing your context requires careful listening and respect for those around you. This is true regardless of whether or not you use one particular term or not. If you do not intend to be respectful, then was there ever any issue in the first place? Your disrespect will be conveyed regardless. If you do intend to be respectful, then you will know…

> If you do intend to be respectful, then you will know if using it is offensive or not in your given context. It's very easy to intend to be respectful but misread the context. Also, there are words that are so taboo they are not ok in any context. I find it particularly hard to navigate the English taboos from a non native perspective. I believe the person asking wants to know how the word is seen by others, which…

  I believe the person asking wants to know how the word is seen by others,
  which is great in my opinion.
Unlikely. Their tell is:

  these “woke” times

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by IggleSniggle »

aflag wrote: post #165
IggleSniggle wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether or not something is offensive almost always depends on context. Knowing your context requires careful listening and respect for those around you. This is true regardless of whether or not you use one particular term or not. If you do not intend to be respectful, then was there ever any issue in the first place? Your disrespect will be conveyed regardless. If you do intend to be respectful, then you will know…

> If you do intend to be respectful, then you will know if using it is offensive or not in your given context. It's very easy to intend to be respectful but misread the context. Also, there are words that are so taboo they are not ok in any context. I find it particularly hard to navigate the English taboos from a non native perspective. I believe the person asking wants to know how the word is seen by others, which…

I agree, and am merely encouraging this direct communication to be used with those you are directly speaking to. When it comes to things like this, there might be some broad understanding, but it doesn’t necessarily apply to the person you are speaking to.

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Post by inferiorhuman »

lostlogin wrote: post #142
imran0 wrote: post #141

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It’s funny, I’d have said that calling everything woke or seeing wokeness everywhere was a pseudo-religion. Criticising something is fine, but doing it by calling the issue ‘work’ just doesn’t seem to add to any argument.

  doing it by calling the issue ‘work’ just doesn’t seem to add to any argument.
Well that's what they get for typing with their fingers covered in pudding.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by lynx23 »

Eisenstein wrote: post #161
lynx23 wrote: post #158

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No, No, and No. Simply because I dont agree with language police, as a principle.

You can call things 'language police' all you want, but assumptions are based on reality and experience, and pushing back when they are obviously true is silly.

> reality ... experience ... obviously true ... silly

And you seriously believe this condescending way of talking down to people is great? Your choice, your opinion. Maybe reality will catch up, maybe you will catch up with reality, time will tell.

Re: Turmeric’s unexpected link to lead poisoning in Bangladesh

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Post by Eisenstein »

lynx23 wrote: post #169
Eisenstein wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can call things 'language police' all you want, but assumptions are based on reality and experience, and pushing back when they are obviously true is silly.

> reality ... experience ... obviously true ... silly And you seriously believe this condescending way of talking down to people is great? Your choice, your opinion. Maybe reality will catch up, maybe you will catch up with reality, time will tell.

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