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Happiness is a reward from our ancestors

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Re: Happiness is a reward from our ancestors

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I think "content" is the English word the author is looking for - the first definition I see on Google from Oxford is "in a state of peaceful happiness" which seems like the intended long-term meaning - "a state", not a moment, and "peaceful", not surprise-driven. Beyond that, I'm a bit lost by where this is going - like the segue into confidence and building confidence by e.g. learning about roof building techniques…

The author links to a post of what personally worked for her [1].

> In order to cure my depression, I did the evolutionary psychology thing hard-core: I got married and had children. I dropped out of university. I moved to the countryside. I started to renovate and build houses and to grow food for my family.

What seems like the author's fundamental explanation is also written there:

> It is exactly the same with psychological pain. Ideally, psychological pain is information saying "stop doing what you are doing". The mechanism is not perfect and many people suffer from inexplicable psychological pain. But still, the purpose of psychological pain is telling people they are probably hurting their genes.

> One big problem is that our genes weren't invented yesterday. What was once good for our genes is not necessarily good for our genes today. So when we experience psychological pain, it is likely to be because we do something that was bad for our ancestors' genes.

She also notes that a lot of genes were selected for in the last 10k years, so some of our genetic instincts are for farming rather than hunting and gathering. [2]

[1] https://woodfromeden.substack.com/p/how-i-cured-myself-with-... [2] https://woodfromeden.substack.com/p/the-10-000-year-explosio...

Re: Happiness is a reward from our ancestors

#52

https://youtu.be/4q1dgn_C0AU “The surprising science of happiness”, from Dan Gilbert, is one of the best TED talks of all time (over 4M views). In his amazing & funny 20’ presentation, he explains how our brains are wired and how it relates to happiness. The article reminded me of this great content

I found that video incredibly unconvincing. It just feels like pseudoscience telling people what they want to hear, and the data was underwhelming (assuming it's not flawed to begin with).

I think a more plausible explanation is that people just lie to themselves to believe whatever they want. These people are only "happier" until they're forced to confront a reality that contradicts their beliefs. In other words it's willful ignorance masquerading as synthesized happiness.

There's also data backing up what I'm saying. There's a study that's regurgitated constantly saying people aren't happier after making a certain amount of money ($75k), but almost nobody bothered to actually read the study. I think this contradictory study is a lot more convincing.

https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2016976118

Re: Happiness is a reward from our ancestors

#53

Speaking of ancestors, I think it is unfortunate that so many are unaware of what they found to be true about happiness, and what happiness is, and what it isn't. I am not impressed by evolutionary psychology and its superficial and half-baked just-so stories. Biology and psychology can give us hints and signs about things which are then folded into any sound account of the human person, but it is just that: informat…

Gross. This guy is pro-life, anti-gay marriage, and deeply embedded in religion, yet identifies as a "philosopher". He's the opposite of what we should be listening to.

There's nothing we should be listening to.

Re: Happiness is a reward from our ancestors

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> In Swedish... someone happy in the moment is called glad... Someone happy in the longer-term is called lycklig. And we are not just some millions of weirdos in the northernmost of Europe. The Germans are froh when they are happy in the short term and glücklich when they are happy in the long term... Just because you don't have a dedicated word for something, doesn't mean that it is a foreign concept. In Arabic and…

OMG this.

Re: Happiness is a reward from our ancestors

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Speaking of ancestors, I think it is unfortunate that so many are unaware of what they found to be true about happiness, and what happiness is, and what it isn't. I am not impressed by evolutionary psychology and its superficial and half-baked just-so stories. Biology and psychology can give us hints and signs about things which are then folded into any sound account of the human person, but it is just that: informat…

Gross. This guy is pro-life, anti-gay marriage, and deeply embedded in religion, yet identifies as a "philosopher". He's the opposite of what we should be listening to.

"gross" are you disgusted by him?

Re: Happiness is a reward from our ancestors

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gross. This guy is pro-life, anti-gay marriage, and deeply embedded in religion, yet identifies as a "philosopher". He's the opposite of what we should be listening to.

That’s a very bigoted way to define „philosopher“. Philosopher’s job is not to tell things that you want to hear. Philosopher’s job is to challenge you. Don’t get entrenched in your bubble, mate.

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Re: Happiness is a reward from our ancestors

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> In Swedish... someone happy in the moment is called glad... Someone happy in the longer-term is called lycklig. And we are not just some millions of weirdos in the northernmost of Europe. The Germans are froh when they are happy in the short term and glücklich when they are happy in the long term... Just because you don't have a dedicated word for something, doesn't mean that it is a foreign concept. In Arabic and…

Actually, ״to be״ in Hebrew translates to להיות (l’hyot), depending on the context.

“I want to be at home” “אני רוצה להיות בבית״

Re: Happiness is a reward from our ancestors

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Speaking of ancestors, I think it is unfortunate that so many are unaware of what they found to be true about happiness, and what happiness is, and what it isn't. I am not impressed by evolutionary psychology and its superficial and half-baked just-so stories. Biology and psychology can give us hints and signs about things which are then folded into any sound account of the human person, but it is just that: informat…

Aristotle seems to have been insidiously wrong on just about every topic. Why should his views on happiness be any different?

Why do you think Aristotle was wrong about drama/poetics?
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