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U.S. pedestrian deaths reach a 40-year high

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I don't think the pedestrian getting hit cares whether it's an EV or not.

“My life is flashing before my eyes but at least it was an environmentally conscious Rivian that took me out and not a gas-guzzling RAM. My life may be over but the Earth is in good hands. Nice color too, really like the yellow.”

I don't upvote jokes out of principle but this was pretty funny

Re: U.S. pedestrian deaths reach a 40-year high

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I dont have an answer for why. Just it has. I live in a major city in the midwest and its wild how often I see people drive with zero regard for anyone else. Running red lights and almost hitting someone, cutting people off, swerving in traffic erratically to be faster. Its honestly scary some days.

I can't believe we are blaming this ENTIRELY on drivers... with people in the comments even claiming that the quality of drivers has gone done because work from home has put more poor people on the road. Just look at the pedestrians you pass on your next drive. Count how many of them are looking at their phone while walking. I just did this and it was 4/10. I think Pedestrian behavior and awareness *might be a little…

Yes people glance at their phone while walking. Just like drivers glance at their phone while driving (or fiddle with those stupid touch-screens that are ubiquitous now).

But just like there aren't many drivers who would stare intently at their phone while driving through a busy intersection, there aren't many pedestrians that will stare intently at a phone while crossing a busy street. It's simple self-perservation.

Also, phones have been around for ages now. Pedestrians are being hit and killed at a higher rate since the pandemic started, not since the wide adoption of cellphone technology.

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I am not a fan of people needlessly dying. I guess I don't understand why automotive deaths are such a focus on internet boards. I am guessing because there's desire to push public sentiment towards self-driving vehicles? Self-driving vehicles would be interesting to implement/have regardless of anti-car/anti-human driving agendas; the demise of one does not necessitate the acceptance of the other. Or if we care so m…

The constitution does talk about freedom of movement. I think being able to walk from one State to another (or within) without being killed by a semi is a reasonable and compelling interest of the government that promises such freedom.

If someone dies from cutting down a tree on their property or falls down a staircase in their own home, I am not sure there is as strong of an interest from the government to correct that situation.

That is my hot take. I think a prosperous society should move in the direction of being safer in all regards, but pedestrians dying from licensed motor vehicle operators seems like the government's problem to take seriously and not pearl clutching.

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Something happened around 2010, it seems. Followed by another big jump in 2020. We've had big SUVs and trucks a lot longer than 2010, so my thought is that something else changed. Smartphones maybe. And we all know what happened in 2020. Many people still haven't relearned how to drive sanely after that fiasco, though I'm not sure why.

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Enforcement is not the solution because it requires constant vigilance. Road design is because you can build the road in a way that brings about the speed/safety envelope you desire, and then it always works correctly whether anyone is monitoring it or not.

Reckless drivers will do their thing regardless of road design.

Except they cant kill as effectivly whit a good road design..

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Someone who has been hit by a car twice. That's who thinks like that. I do not step into traffic without carefully looking every direction, to the horizon, for any vehicle that might move in my direction. Should I have to live like this? No. Do I live like this because I want to keep living? Yes. Somehow the people in this thread have interpreted this observation as a justification that it's okay. Don't know why, rea…

You're still victim blaming, having been hit by a car doesn't magically absolve you for have a rancid opinion. No one is advocating that pedestrians don't take precautions, this is a total straw man. People are calling for better, safer infrastructure and enforcement around unsafe driving and you're blaming walking while texting. Your claim is unsupported by evidence.

There's a saying with motorcycles: "you can be right, or you can be dead". If you want pie-in-sky thinking, sure victims are never to blame. But if you want to be realistic about safety, it doesn't matter who is correct or who has right-of-way, you do what have to be safe. We teach children to look both ways before crossing the street - not to blame them, but to keep them alive. You're being quite close minded on this.

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Americans are slaves to cars. We treat the ability to drive a monster truck to the grocery store as a sacred right and anyone who would dare impede our progress for a handful of seconds (pedestrians, yes, but ESPECIALLY those rotten tree-hugging cyclists) are to be scorned and intimidated at best, summarily executed at worst. We've hollowed out our cities for parking lots and leveled neighborhoods and green spaces to…

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Interesting, because I have a theory that less dependence on cars would actually lead to fewer crazy, homeless people and more vibrant neighbourhoods: the reason being that lower income folks wouldn't have to spend so much time and money on cars. As tempting as it is to look away, we're only fracturing our society more by drawing lines between different income classes, if we don't invest in things like walkable neighbourhoods and public transport.

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I am not a fan of people needlessly dying. I guess I don't understand why automotive deaths are such a focus on internet boards. I am guessing because there's desire to push public sentiment towards self-driving vehicles? Self-driving vehicles would be interesting to implement/have regardless of anti-car/anti-human driving agendas; the demise of one does not necessitate the acceptance of the other. Or if we care so m…

> I guess I don't understand why automotive deaths are such a focus on internet boards.

I don't know if it's the international nature of online discussion, or just that online discussion favors a certain type of personality, but there is a huge divergence between what appears to be a popular belief online, and what people are like in the real world.

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