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Google has a secret browser hidden inside the settings

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Re: Google has a secret browser hidden inside the settings

#61

Reminds me of the trick in windows 98, where you could by pass the password input screen by opening help and open file dialog.

You can do that (Win95) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UfNlRe-goY

Or you can hit cancel (Win98) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHgjN_RwH6g

Or can you simply close the password dialog and wait (Win98) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk_SKw9hOpQ

Re: Google has a secret browser hidden inside the settings

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Google's increasingly cavalier attitude towards security is concerning: > [3 bullet points unrelated to security] Security is a field related to protecting device-users from malicious actors. Your 3 examples all fall broadly under parental-controls, which are about controlling & monitoring a user's use & access of their device - a scenario within whichc the user is the adversary, not external actors. That may be an…

> which are about controlling & monitoring a user's use & access of their device - a scenario within whichc the user is the adversary, not external actors Access control falls squarely under security. Also, the user should be considered the adversary, because they or programs that run on their behalf might be malicious, either knowingly or unknowingly. Not accounting for this is one of UNIX's biggest blunders.

The user is generally never the adversary in any legitimate security situation. Ignorance might be but that’s not something inherent to the user and an area for improvement.

Re: Google has a secret browser hidden inside the settings

#63
I used to do the same thing in the lobby while my parents were banking.

Those "best viewed in Netscape Navigator" tags were golden for this. Workflow was almost exactly the same: click through until you get a "best viewed in" tag and get from there to a search engine.

Re: Google has a secret browser hidden inside the settings

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Google's increasingly cavalier attitude towards security is concerning: 1) Kids WILL use this to bypass parental / school controls as soon as they learn about it 2) In some contexts (especially as high-stakes test settings, but also some military/prison/finance/medical/legal/etc. settings) this IS a direct security risk 3) Given the embedded browser is not secure, if a lot of kids do this, it WILL lead to someone exp…

Google outsourced work to low cost bidders and now they get low quality results.

Says the person whose last comment is upset that their engineers have a $300k salary?

Re: Google has a secret browser hidden inside the settings

#66

Is this different than any other embedded webview? Doesn't nearly every app somewhere have an embedded webview somewhere for things like "view privacy policy", where it is often much easier to display html than sending the whole privacy policy to your app developer?

That's exactly what this is. It's Android System Webview, the embedded browser that apps use when they aren't a browser themselves.

Re: Google has a secret browser hidden inside the settings

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Security is a field related to protecting device-users from malicious actors. You know - sometimes, just sometimes - it is also to do with protecting organisations from careless or malicious users. The three points are related to security, even it couched in terms of parents/children

There are lot of much easier ways to compromise security both for careless or malicious users. This is the fundamental difference between ios and android. If you want you could ruin the security of android, however it is harder to do it in ios. Definitely not impossible, you could sideload dangerous apps easily in ios as well.

> There are lot of much easier ways to compromise security both for careless or malicious users.

So what? There can be multiple ways to compromise security and it’s not like we only solve the easiest ways and leave the rest.

While there are easier ways today, when those get patched this will one day be the easiest.

Re: Google has a secret browser hidden inside the settings

#68

My brother uses a similar trick to get to a browser to bypass login on locked Android devices. It blows my mind that they can't see the security implications of this.

Getting to a browser isn’t really a security vulnerability; many devices will even have a “guest” mode that provides direct access to the internet.
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