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The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland

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Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland

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It’s pretty bonkers how far out of their way humans will go to make things more difficult. Like it can’t just be drinking tea, it has to have vast sweeping sociological implications. Human beings are so very very extra.

Tea drinking in Ireland is a big part of the culture, and we have a lot of unwritten rules around it. I'm sure other irish HN'ers will jump in here and add to the list, but off the top of my head

- if you don't offer someone tea when they come to visit, you are rude. if they refuse, and you accept their first offer without insisting, that's also rude. you have to persist a bit. this was parodied in the TV show "Father Ted" but it has some truth to it

- additionally, if someone says yes to a cup and you don't offer a second cup a while later, probably rude

- if you don't have biscuits, you need to apologise and explain why.

- if you drink green tea or anything other than black "breakfast" tea, you're "fancy"

- Households are either "Barrys Tea" or "Lyons Tea" and people are expected to have a loyal devotion to one and hatred of the other. Other brands (non-irish) are ridiculed, although we all drink all kinds. (Note - this rivalry also extends to 'crisps' or potato snacks - you're either Tayto or Kings)

- some people prefer coffee which is fine, but if you don't like either you're considered odd

Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland

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It’s pretty bonkers how far out of their way humans will go to make things more difficult. Like it can’t just be drinking tea, it has to have vast sweeping sociological implications. Human beings are so very very extra.

Tea drinking in Ireland is a big part of the culture, and we have a lot of unwritten rules around it. I'm sure other irish HN'ers will jump in here and add to the list, but off the top of my head - if you don't offer someone tea when they come to visit, you are rude. if they refuse, and you accept their first offer without insisting, that's also rude. you have to persist a bit. this was parodied in the TV show "Fathe…

Accepting anything offered to you on the first offer is a bit rude. Basically, you are a guest of someone and shouldn't be a burden on them. They have to prove to you that you are not a burden, and then once that is clear you don't feel bad being served. Then your tea comes with cake, ham sandwiches and biscuit which is beyond the scope of the initial drink you were offered.

Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland

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It’s pretty bonkers how far out of their way humans will go to make things more difficult. Like it can’t just be drinking tea, it has to have vast sweeping sociological implications. Human beings are so very very extra.

Tea drinking in Ireland is a big part of the culture, and we have a lot of unwritten rules around it. I'm sure other irish HN'ers will jump in here and add to the list, but off the top of my head - if you don't offer someone tea when they come to visit, you are rude. if they refuse, and you accept their first offer without insisting, that's also rude. you have to persist a bit. this was parodied in the TV show "Fathe…

> Households are either "Barrys Tea" or "Lyons Tea" and people are expected to have a loyal devotion to one and hatred of the other

So if you offer Barry's to a guest who is in the Lyons, are you being rude?

Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland

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It’s pretty bonkers how far out of their way humans will go to make things more difficult. Like it can’t just be drinking tea, it has to have vast sweeping sociological implications. Human beings are so very very extra.

Tea drinking in Ireland is a big part of the culture, and we have a lot of unwritten rules around it. I'm sure other irish HN'ers will jump in here and add to the list, but off the top of my head - if you don't offer someone tea when they come to visit, you are rude. if they refuse, and you accept their first offer without insisting, that's also rude. you have to persist a bit. this was parodied in the TV show "Fathe…

That kind of shit is why I hate dealing with people, same thing happens here in Poland but with food. I just started saying "nope, I'm too fat for that"

Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland

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Tea drinking in Ireland is a big part of the culture, and we have a lot of unwritten rules around it. I'm sure other irish HN'ers will jump in here and add to the list, but off the top of my head - if you don't offer someone tea when they come to visit, you are rude. if they refuse, and you accept their first offer without insisting, that's also rude. you have to persist a bit. this was parodied in the TV show "Fathe…

That kind of shit is why I hate dealing with people, same thing happens here in Poland but with food. I just started saying "nope, I'm too fat for that"

Why "hate"? I personally find fascinating that kind of implicit cultural rules.

Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland

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It’s pretty bonkers how far out of their way humans will go to make things more difficult. Like it can’t just be drinking tea, it has to have vast sweeping sociological implications. Human beings are so very very extra.

Tea drinking in Ireland is a big part of the culture, and we have a lot of unwritten rules around it. I'm sure other irish HN'ers will jump in here and add to the list, but off the top of my head - if you don't offer someone tea when they come to visit, you are rude. if they refuse, and you accept their first offer without insisting, that's also rude. you have to persist a bit. this was parodied in the TV show "Fathe…

And I thought it was only the English who have such a close relationship to tea!

Re: The dangers of tea drinking in nineteenth century Ireland

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It’s pretty bonkers how far out of their way humans will go to make things more difficult. Like it can’t just be drinking tea, it has to have vast sweeping sociological implications. Human beings are so very very extra.

Tea drinking in Ireland is a big part of the culture, and we have a lot of unwritten rules around it. I'm sure other irish HN'ers will jump in here and add to the list, but off the top of my head - if you don't offer someone tea when they come to visit, you are rude. if they refuse, and you accept their first offer without insisting, that's also rude. you have to persist a bit. this was parodied in the TV show "Fathe…

> Households are either "Barrys Tea" or "Lyons Tea"

That seems to be a cultural constant. In East Frisia it's Bünting or Thiele.

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