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Post by WirelessGigabit »

OnlineGladiator wrote: post #25

For many cars it's relatively straight-forward to disable the cellular modem, and sometimes it won't impact the other functionality of the car at all. Chances are someone in a forum somewhere has done the legwork for you. Do a google search and realize how easy (or hard) it is to do for your vehicle. Most of the time it won't even impact your warranty, apart from the modem you've purposefully disabled and no longer c…

Except that is the same modem that is used to call emergency services when you get into an accident.

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Post by Obscurity4340 »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119
Retric wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don’t want to be tracked then you have to make sacrifices on the scale of not carrying around a cellphone. But that really doesn’t scale. Handing out your customers secrets doesn’t have a big red flag that automatically tells them you’re selling them out. That’s the core issue which has nothing to do with customer choices and why regulation is one of the few ways to give customers informed choices.

Name any major organisation that’s not selling data excluding companies such as signal and (presumably) apple…

That's ok, but there should always be transparency in who is collecting the data and the chain-of-custody of data collected. The ad agencies and everyone affilliated thrive in the current darkness...

Re: How the most popular cars in the US track drivers

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

Obscurity4340 wrote: post #122
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name any major organisation that’s not selling data excluding companies such as signal and (presumably) apple…

That's ok, but there should always be transparency in who is collecting the data and the chain-of-custody of data collected. The ad agencies and everyone affilliated thrive in the current darkness...

Sorry that’s a valid point, my point is that I’d like to not have my data sold in the first place,

Re: How the most popular cars in the US track drivers

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Post by soupfordummies »

Retric wrote: post #88
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #53

It’s becoming impossible to practice what you preach when it comes to data privacy. ‘Don’t like it, don’t buy it’ is difficult to execute unless you don’t mind not having a car, mobile phone, tv, browse the internet or even go out in a public place. There needs to be regulation and at least the ability to at least easily opt out of any of this insanity, but until there’s one (or probably many) widespread data-breache…

If you don’t want to be tracked then you have to make sacrifices on the scale of not carrying around a cellphone. But that really doesn’t scale. Handing out your customers secrets doesn’t have a big red flag that automatically tells them you’re selling them out. That’s the core issue which has nothing to do with customer choices and why regulation is one of the few ways to give customers informed choices.

Not carrying a cell phone is a pretty huge sacrifice now—it’s almost to the point where you have to have one in order to participate in society.

Re: How the most popular cars in the US track drivers

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Post by Klonoar »

falcolas wrote: post #87
Klonoar wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Japan's privacy laws are fairly strict and, to some degree, interoperate with GDPR. For context, I've a Toyota GR86 where opting out of data sharing can be done via an app. (Edits for some extra context) https://www.toyota.com/privacyvts/images/doc/Toyota%20-%20Co... > (i) the Connected Services Privacy Notice located at www.Toyota.com/privacyvts (“Privacy Notice”). Carefully review the Privacy Notice as it applies t…

> opting out of data sharing can be done via an app. Oh, the irony. As the owner of a new Toyota who received a phone call from our dealer because Toyota contacted them about a (routine) maintenance alert from our vehicle… the car / app combination is a privacy nightmare. They offer an opt out, and that’s good, but by the gods their default is insane.

I mean, you can also contact them - per my quoted text. The app is just easier if you don't feel like dealing with tracking things down. ;P

But yes, in general, the defaults on all new modern vehicles are a nightmare.

Re: How the most popular cars in the US track drivers

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Post by xnx »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119
Retric wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don’t want to be tracked then you have to make sacrifices on the scale of not carrying around a cellphone. But that really doesn’t scale. Handing out your customers secrets doesn’t have a big red flag that automatically tells them you’re selling them out. That’s the core issue which has nothing to do with customer choices and why regulation is one of the few ways to give customers informed choices.

Name any major organisation that’s not selling data excluding companies such as signal and (presumably) apple…

Google, Facebook, Microsoft

Re: How the most popular cars in the US track drivers

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Post by xnx »

photonbeam wrote: post #103
mech7654 wrote: post #97

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I am often frustrated at the poor visibility out of modern cars and I wonder how many crashes are caused by the poor visibility. It is the other side of the tradeoff that crash survivability data will not show- how many crashes would have been avoided altogether with better visibility.

Had a near miss today with a cyclist who was covered by the giant windshield pillars

Entire compact cars can be obscured by the a pillar in my 2018 vehicle. Textbook case of unintended consequences.

Re: How the most popular cars in the US track drivers

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Post by switch007 »

xyst wrote: post #86
hgdcbbc wrote: post #16

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Aren’t rearview cameras required now for new cars in the United States for safety reasons? Hope you don’t live around anyone too short.

TIL: https://www.thedrive.com/news/20612/rearview-cameras-are-now... In the good ole USA, vehicles are also getting larger (massive market to satisfy the insecurities of millions of Americans) and manufacturers are pushing them down American throats to get around the CAFE regulations. [1] Since they are getting larger, this means the view from the front is obscured. In most SUVs and trucks, 8-9 children can be sittin…

Children should obviously carry a 10ft orange flag whenever they’re around cars. If not, it’s their fault if they get hit.

/s

Re: How the most popular cars in the US track drivers

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Post by pertymcpert »

blueridge wrote: post #74
xadhominemx wrote: post #59

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Why would you you “safety” features in quotes?

I'm talking about things like: eyesight assists, automatic braking, side view mirrors that flash and light up constantly, etc. My wife has a new car with all of these features, and they're incredibly distracting. The car brakes automatically in parking lots when it sees shadows, beeps endlessly anytime it sees a curb while in reverse, and alarms anytime she so much as scratches her eye while driving because the softw…

You might have a dud or something because that just doesn't happen in modern cars.

Re: How the most popular cars in the US track drivers

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

xnx wrote: post #126
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Name any major organisation that’s not selling data excluding companies such as signal and (presumably) apple…

Google, Facebook, Microsoft

You don’t think they’re selling the data to other departments internally?
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