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The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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I have a bigger beef with other Fuck You patterns. 1. The increasingly high number of sites that will show a blank page when I disable Javascript. 2. The increasingly high number of sites that will show a blank page when I disable cookies even if I have no intention to login and often the site doesn't even involve any kind of membership. 3. Sites that refuse me their content because my browser "is no longer supported…

What's wrong with Cloudflare?

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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I had an experience like this today when I tried to use GlassDoor for the first time. As a student making my first ever job applications, I wanted to see what salaries and work environments were like at particular employers. GlassDoor did the same scroll-locking tactic (so an element zapper like Ublock Origin's wouldn't resolve the issue), instructing me to register or sign in to view any information. So I registered…

> Suffice to say I will not be using GlassDoor in the future You’ll cave eventually, they know this.

How can you be so sure? I've never used it in my life, and I don't even have a particular motivation not to.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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I had an experience like this today when I tried to use GlassDoor for the first time. As a student making my first ever job applications, I wanted to see what salaries and work environments were like at particular employers. GlassDoor did the same scroll-locking tactic (so an element zapper like Ublock Origin's wouldn't resolve the issue), instructing me to register or sign in to view any information. So I registered…

Glassdoor is comically broken. It didn't even work with Firefox for months. You can't log in, sometimes you get stuck in a cloudflare authentication loop, random info tabs on company pages crash. It's so bad I don't even know if they have people working there, like they aren't aware of how non-functioning the website is.

It's slightly better on Chrome but some of the above issues still persist.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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I had an experience like this today when I tried to use GlassDoor for the first time. As a student making my first ever job applications, I wanted to see what salaries and work environments were like at particular employers. GlassDoor did the same scroll-locking tactic (so an element zapper like Ublock Origin's wouldn't resolve the issue), instructing me to register or sign in to view any information. So I registered…

> I needed to leave a review for my current employer Perhaps you'd like to join as a disgruntled GlassDoor employee?

I believe glass door removes negative ratings

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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post #233

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> Suffice to say I will not be using GlassDoor in the future You’ll cave eventually, they know this.

How can you be so sure? I've never used it in my life, and I don't even have a particular motivation not to.

This dark pattern is meant to generate useful data

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Ok, done! The QR code encodes the URL to download a 19.8 MB beautifully designed menu in PDF format. Now what does the blind person do?

Great straw man, but luckily the solution is easy. Inform the restaurant to use one of the many dozens of menu services that are designed specifically with screen readers in mind. There are also PDF screen readers, but that's less ideal because the PDF needs to be designed with accessibility in mind. https://www.afb.org/blindness-and-low-vision/using-technolog...

...or a physical menu in braille.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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post #134

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This is not new, Gillette used to give out free razors to get people used to their ecosystem and get recurring revenue. It’s just more “in your face” now.

I think Nestlé wins the most egregious example; where they gave free baby formula in developing countries for just long enough for the mothers to stop producing milk and then started charging them for the right to feed their babies.

While telling the mothers it was healthier for the baby to use formula

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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> Yes, they have to. Nope. They chose to. Do some incentives encourage them in this direction? Sure. That's different than them "having to". Actual people are doing this, and they actually made choices toward maximum exploitation of human weakness. They are morally responsible for those choices. I agree that people should leave those platforms and move to open solutions. That would be some good choice-making. But tha…

As I understand it, they have to. Google 'Fiduciary Duty'.

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