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Re: Show HN: Open-source resume builder and parser

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Post by Andrew_nenakhov »

AHOHA wrote: post #34
Andrew_nenakhov wrote: post #22

Many years ago we were posting jobs on a local bulletin boards and received applicant resumes on an email. The composition of a resume acted as a primary filter from people who couldn't even organize a few lines of information about themselves. Then, an internet company in our country took over the market and almost all jobs are searched through it. Of course,it features a very nice resume builder, so now everyone ha…

You are discriminating against the candidates who might have some disabilities (whether they know they have or not) like dyslexia, you are also discriminating against candidates whose English (or whatever that language in your country) isn’t their first, even though they might be the best suited candidates, best programmers/engineers/etc., I have seen this first hand in some interviews, where some candidates eliminat…

Yes, when hiring I do discriminate against candidates with bad skills.

Reading and writing, communication in written form is a critical skill for a software developer, more important than even coding skills (btw, I'm yet to see a person who can code and can't write, or even hear about such person). It is irrelevant, what is the reason for the lack of skill - innate disability or low intelligence - if you can't clearly and precisely communicate with your coworkers, you'll create more problems for the team than you will solve.

And speaking of discrimination, you wouldn't hire a paraplegic person as a nurse or firefighter, right?

Re: Show HN: Open-source resume builder and parser

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Post by rosmax_1337 »

xitang wrote: post #57
rosmax_1337 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I have to admit that the claim is more for marketing purpose to make it look impressive. If you are going to be honest about lying by admitting to us that you lied, just state that it was a lie, don't euphemize it as marketing. Otherwise the "honesty" just comes of as manipulation.

I apologize for the confusion the statement has caused and comes off as lying. The statement is accurate and is in fact tested & likened by students and employees listed in the logo cloud. I appreciate the feedback that given it is only a handful of us, this statement can give the wrong impressions that it is more widely used than people perceive. I want to keep the project honest, clear and transparent as much as po…

>The statement is accurate and is in fact tested & likened by students and employees listed in the logo cloud.

I have no doubts your claim as it was written in text was correct. The lie was by layout and usage of company and university logos. These kinds of "we are trusted by" and "in cooperation with" sections are common, it's what you're making in that section, and the usage of logos in those sections always mean the same thing: these organisations use/trust our software.

Re: Show HN: Open-source resume builder and parser

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Post by moffkalast »

xitang wrote: post #20
moffkalast wrote: post #12

So in a sense, you've made a resume builder you can now put on your resume that you've built with the builder itself? Very meta.

Yeah haha, and it is true. I actually personally use this resume template to apply for jobs during my last job search and was invited to interview with companies like Dropbox, Meta, Amazon. Now I translate the template to be creatable with the builder so I can edit it easier and other folks can use it too.

"Meta Eyes Resume Builder Builder's Meta Resume, Builder Resumes Resume Builder Building"

Re: Show HN: Open-source resume builder and parser

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Post by linusha »

ghosty141 wrote: post #66
linusha wrote: post #65

A general question: What do you all think about this Skill representation as points out of 5 (or 7 or 10 for that matter)? These arbitrary scales always hit me as kind of...useless? There is no frame of reference what a specific amount of points mean. Of course, with this kind of skill-self-description there will always be difficulties, i.e., one does not always know what one does not know etc. But it seems to me tha…

They are arbitrary in a way but remember that the people scanning over the resumes are not technical people, for them its important that a skill is there and thats about it. Finding a job is more about social skills than technical ones.

But why spent valuable estate on the CV by providing a made-up scale, when just putting the skill would be enough to satisfy your argument?

Re: Show HN: Open-source resume builder and parser

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Post by jamietanna »

Looks pretty interesting - unfortunately my CV (https://hire.jvt.me) couldn't get parsed fully, but would definitely be up to chat about if you'd be interested in supporting things like Microformats, as my CV (in HTML form) is marked up with them to make it easier to parse

Re: Show HN: Open-source resume builder and parser

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Post by dotandgtfo »

rosmax_1337 wrote: post #70
skwirl wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where was the lie? It’s pretty crappy to baselessly accuse someone of lying.

They claimed companies like Google and some universities trusted their software. If you read it word by word, it was only a claim that people who worked at the companies and who studied at the universities trusted their software, but the usage of company and university logos also made clear claim that the companies and universities themselves had endorsed it. They admitted it was for marketing purposes, and I added t…

I don't really attribute this maliciously. Yeah, it may be overstepping it a bit but the wording can make sense (but they should definitively change it). Developers generally aren't great marketers and these guys aren't native in english.

Re: Show HN: Open-source resume builder and parser

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Post by LastTrain »

skwirl wrote: post #62
rosmax_1337 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I have to admit that the claim is more for marketing purpose to make it look impressive. If you are going to be honest about lying by admitting to us that you lied, just state that it was a lie, don't euphemize it as marketing. Otherwise the "honesty" just comes of as manipulation.

Where was the lie? It’s pretty crappy to baselessly accuse someone of lying.

This thread is making me understand why they have to teach ethics.

Re: Show HN: Open-source resume builder and parser

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Post by evilduck »

linusha wrote: post #75
ghosty141 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are arbitrary in a way but remember that the people scanning over the resumes are not technical people, for them its important that a skill is there and thats about it. Finding a job is more about social skills than technical ones.

But why spent valuable estate on the CV by providing a made-up scale, when just putting the skill would be enough to satisfy your argument?

Because resumes aren't evaluated on maximum information density (and sometimes sparser resumes even do better).

I don't care for skill self-ratings as a concept either but these are placed in what would need to be negative space anyways. If you're committing to a skills list, removing the rating dots and stuffing more skills in their place probably wouldn't have a positive effect.

Re: Show HN: Open-source resume builder and parser

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Post by clnq »

linusha wrote: post #65

A general question: What do you all think about this Skill representation as points out of 5 (or 7 or 10 for that matter)? These arbitrary scales always hit me as kind of...useless? There is no frame of reference what a specific amount of points mean. Of course, with this kind of skill-self-description there will always be difficulties, i.e., one does not always know what one does not know etc. But it seems to me tha…

The skill bars or skill meters are completely useless because one person's 10/10 is another person's 2/10. Moreover, the more junior the engineer, the higher they score themselves in their discipline.

I am an older engineer and I would rank myself 6-7/10 in most aspects of my work, even if I have architected and built some trend-setting systems in my corner of tech. I have never seen a junior score themselves so low on average.

My experience is also that companies that care about these things (where hires are mainly filtered by HR and not SWEs) tend to build very mediocre teams. I am probably old enough to eschew the whole resume padding or prettifying thing all together. My last resume was written in Notepad, and it worked just fine for its purpose.

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