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Slashdot founder Rob Malda on why there won’t be another Hacker News (2013)

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Re: Slashdot founder Rob Malda on why there won’t be another Hacker News (2013)

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Twitter and Reddit used to be open platforms, and were not thought of as centralized. Which is an ongoing massive rug pull.

All of the current large US social media sites would be perfect if ran similarly to wikipedia, moreso the transparency and openness rather than the non-profit corporate model (but that certainly wouldn't hurt anything).

It can be for-profit but it can’t be publicly traded. The reason we lost Twitter is because they legally had to sell to Elon. The reason we’ll lose Reddit is because they are going public and will legally be required to chase the money.

Re: Slashdot founder Rob Malda on why there won’t be another Hacker News (2013)

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They were always centralized. I can't comprehend how anyone could've thought otherwise. They're paying for the servers, they have executives and boardrooms, they're making deals with advertisers, and had content policies since day 1.

For the same reason a benevolent king and a cruel despot are not both considered tyrants. The problems with centralization were mostly theoretical for twitter and reddit ....

I think it was more that “news” was coming directly from sources of authority rather than traditional news outlets. Why read WSJ, NYT, etc. tech column when I can follow my favorite tech people and get the news I care about + more directly from the people making the news?

Obviously it’s not turned out that way and hopefully federation saves us all, but I don’t know if protocols will ever win over marketing.

Re: Slashdot founder Rob Malda on why there won’t be another Hacker News (2013)

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I thought this was a good interview, and interesting to see what has changed in the past 13 years. IMO HN still has by far the best commentary compared to any aggregator. I think there is a lot shittier commentary than there used to be, but that still tends to get downvoted to the bottom or flagged, and dang somehow manages to keep the flame wars to a minimum. One glaring omission in this interview, though, was how S…

When old.reddit goes it will have the same effect for many browser users I'm sure.

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I would read that as editorial/curatorial power being decentralized.

The sad fact is that the fediverse has the worse of both worlds where, in the end, it still seems like following a block list of an admin who is accountable to no one (instead of a popular person with some specific track record) and the fragmentation means the discoverability and interaction is minimal. Until there's a way where one user can decide what instances to see, it will be a crap experience unless you agree…

It's impressive that you have evaluated 20k+ instances to summarize the Fediverse.

I have accounts on 5 separate Mastodon instances, and on none of them is the experience as you describe it. You also seem to believe that if you get on an instance run by a reactionary martinet that you are somehow forced to stay there or stop using the Fediverse. Of course, a lot of people seem to believe this about Twitter.

Re: Slashdot founder Rob Malda on why there won’t be another Hacker News (2013)

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I'm with CmdrTaco. Hacker News from the front page is way way WAY too much. I browse Hacker News through skimfeed.com. Whoever is responsible for that does a really good job combing through Hacker News and surfacing stuff I'm interested in.

On the whole, it really sucks that the Internet these days is basically what cable TV was 20 years ago. Lots and lots and LOTS of emotionally-manipulative video broken up by increasingly-obnoxious ads.

The primarily text-based Internet that I really enjoyed using seems to be getting smaller and smaller (or harder and harder to find). Can't say I'm surprised, though. The bill was going to need to be paid, eventually.

Re: Slashdot founder Rob Malda on why there won’t be another Hacker News (2013)

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> Hacker News is awesome. It is probably my number one RSS feed right now. But it's getting too big. They've crossed the line that reddit crossed a long time ago. The value on reddit now is on the subreddits, not on the main page. Hacker News is wobbling on that space now. If I could just find someone who made a Hacker News digest, with the 10 best items from Hacker News, that would be a really good Slashdot. Interes…

I don't consume HN via RSS, so I am just speculating, but perhaps the RSS feed has a lot of turnover. HN on the web is nice because links stay on the front page for a while, but a chronological delivery such as RSS might be messier.

The "messy" nature of RSS feeds is an advantage when dealing with sites like HN since you're not affected by any type of ranking mechanism, i.e. you get to see those posts which for some reason or another are quickly moved off the front page.

Re: Slashdot founder Rob Malda on why there won’t be another Hacker News (2013)

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I thought this was a good interview, and interesting to see what has changed in the past 13 years. IMO HN still has by far the best commentary compared to any aggregator. I think there is a lot shittier commentary than there used to be, but that still tends to get downvoted to the bottom or flagged, and dang somehow manages to keep the flame wars to a minimum. One glaring omission in this interview, though, was how S…

Yeah, Slashdot's UI refresh definitely killed the site for me. Reddit was a breath of fresh air by comparison. I still remember when a coworker told me about it back in 2012. I literally stopped browsing Slashdot ever since that day.

Reddit had a lot of the same energy that /. did, but in areas other than tech, which I found fascinating. I've learned so much about so many things thanks to Reddit.

It's a real shame that their management seems to be interested in making it yet another "social media, but different" kind of experience.

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