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Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Dogs have a much lower carbon footprint than children, nothing about that news is sad.

Are you suggesting we should replace humans with dogs?

I'm suggesting that fewer humans isn't a problem, never mind a "sad" development. That's doubly true when the "fewer humans" is the result of a voluntary choice people make, rather than one of the more traditional ways of obtaining "fewer humans" in a historical context.

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Sad if you enjoy kids, great if you’re child free. There are enough options for everyone to maximize their happiness potential on this topic. (And that rent, woof)

> There are enough options... Maybe , with regard to living in an area with/without kids around. But for those who want to have children of their own...what I've heard from younger folks around here, that really does not look like an option anymore, unless you're in the 1%.

Not to get all political or spin conspiracy theories, but this makes you wonder why we are going in a direction where abortion + birth control will be illegal (at least for most people). Not to mention relaxing the age requirements for being able to work. Could this be a strategy to force people to reproduce and ensure that the poorly payed, disposable workers supply does not run dry?

Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Wish we had a hell of a lot more of these in the USA. Especially pet-free apartments. Something needs to be done about the service animal loophole though, far too many people abusing that system to bring e.g. pair of pitbulls into communities that only allow small dogs or the few rare gems that allow no dogs at all.

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Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Personally I've found the presence of children in restaurants can be totally fine depending on the parents. If they keep a handle on them they're no more unpleasant than an adult. If they're trashy people who let their kids scream and carry on it's a nightmare.

I haven't lived in SK but I'm surprised there are many people who would let their kids be disruptive.

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post #2

Wish we had a hell of a lot more of these in the USA. Especially pet-free apartments. Something needs to be done about the service animal loophole though, far too many people abusing that system to bring e.g. pair of pitbulls into communities that only allow small dogs or the few rare gems that allow no dogs at all.

I live in apartments in Austin. The only reason people get dogs is because everyone else has one. And there are plenty of instances of untrained and abused animals. My downstairs neighbor keeps a dog so loud its bark can be heard through a concrete floor. It barks at all hours of the day, night, and early morning. It's because these neighbors are inconsiderate assholes. The apartment complex management shrugs their shoulders. Hipster ghetto and I'm breaking my lease.

Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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I find few things as obnoxiously childish as grown people that don't want to handle kids being around.

Societal norms have changed.

It used to be if a kid was misbehaving or damaging property, you could, as a random adult, tell them to stop. Now, you can't dare speak without the potential of an ugly confrontation because you dared talk to their little price or princess.

If that's the norm, I'd rather not have stranger's kids around in public spaces.

Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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post #2

Wish we had a hell of a lot more of these in the USA. Especially pet-free apartments. Something needs to be done about the service animal loophole though, far too many people abusing that system to bring e.g. pair of pitbulls into communities that only allow small dogs or the few rare gems that allow no dogs at all.

What’s wrong with pitbulls? Every one I’ve met is a sweet little thing.

And I know the stats on dog attacks. Something like 10 a year from pitbulls could easily be down to owners buying them specifically to use them as weapons and training them as such.

Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Modest idea: Moderately tax no-kids zones. Spend the money to subsidize services which are ~essential to those with young children (such as day care) and ~useless to those without.

Childless taxpayers subsidize the public school system. I get the impression this is a substantial cost already.

A better starting point is to take down artificial costs imposed on childrearing, like https://thezvi.substack.com/p/on-car-seats-as-contraception

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