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Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Post by toomuchtodo »

bell-cot wrote: post #8

A sad data point, proximate to anonym29's comment: 2 decades ago, the apartment complex I currently live in did not allow any dogs, and was swarming with small (and often noisy) children. Now, the dogs greatly outnumber the children. And the monthly rent (with no real physical improvements) is nearly 3x higher. (Location - south-east Michigan, USA.)

Sad if you enjoy kids, great if you’re child free. There are enough options for everyone to maximize their happiness potential on this topic.

(And that rent, woof)

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Post by decremental »

logicchains wrote: post #9
warning26 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Kids probably cause more property damage than pets do. Seems reasonable IMO.

And the people arguing for white-only spaces said whites caused less property damage than certain other races.

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Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Post by dm319 »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #11
bell-cot wrote: post #8

A sad data point, proximate to anonym29's comment: 2 decades ago, the apartment complex I currently live in did not allow any dogs, and was swarming with small (and often noisy) children. Now, the dogs greatly outnumber the children. And the monthly rent (with no real physical improvements) is nearly 3x higher. (Location - south-east Michigan, USA.)

Sad if you enjoy kids, great if you’re child free. There are enough options for everyone to maximize their happiness potential on this topic. (And that rent, woof)

Anyone who is child free still has a vested interest in the future generation.

Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Post by mecsred »

ryan93 wrote: post #5
anonym29 wrote: post #2

Wish we had a hell of a lot more of these in the USA. Especially pet-free apartments. Something needs to be done about the service animal loophole though, far too many people abusing that system to bring e.g. pair of pitbulls into communities that only allow small dogs or the few rare gems that allow no dogs at all.

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This logic makes no sense. What about no smoking spaces? Basically every nation implements these and it benefits everyone (including smokers, more reasons to quit). Are you going to try and tell me "no smoking in front of the building" is the new apartheid?

Smoking and parenthood are lifestyle choices, which have consequences. Skin color is not, and shouldn't. It is not relevant to the conversation.

Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Post by lgleason »

Here's a thought. Allow kids, but require that they have manners and are well behaved. I love kids and have no problems with them, but hate kids that have no manners and are not well behaved because the parents are not doing their job. The same is true with dogs. Both take work, but as a parent and a dog owner those are part of your job.

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Post by BrotherBisquick »

anonym29 wrote: post #2

Wish we had a hell of a lot more of these in the USA. Especially pet-free apartments. Something needs to be done about the service animal loophole though, far too many people abusing that system to bring e.g. pair of pitbulls into communities that only allow small dogs or the few rare gems that allow no dogs at all.

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Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Post by x86x87 »

taeric wrote: post #3

I find few things as obnoxiously childish as grown people that don't want to handle kids being around.

There is more to this than immediate comfort or being childish.

On one hand is taking responsibility for your kid and ensuring they are not a nuisance for other people. You should not outsource your responsibilities.

On the other hand understanding that kids are not full grown adults and that raising one is hard. It's also about understanding that if everyone stops having kids society will collapse in a couple of decades.

Re: Doubts creep in about wisdom of ‘no-kids zones’ in South Korea

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Post by bell-cot »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #11
bell-cot wrote: post #8

A sad data point, proximate to anonym29's comment: 2 decades ago, the apartment complex I currently live in did not allow any dogs, and was swarming with small (and often noisy) children. Now, the dogs greatly outnumber the children. And the monthly rent (with no real physical improvements) is nearly 3x higher. (Location - south-east Michigan, USA.)

Sad if you enjoy kids, great if you’re child free. There are enough options for everyone to maximize their happiness potential on this topic. (And that rent, woof)

> There are enough options...

Maybe, with regard to living in an area with/without kids around.

But for those who want to have children of their own...what I've heard from younger folks around here, that really does not look like an option anymore, unless you're in the 1%.

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