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The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Or you could just print a goddamn paper menu?

Who still has a printer? Maybe they could fax you one instead?

Print shops.

Restaurants already source their materials and equipment from other suppliers. They don't grow their own food; they don't need to print their own menus.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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If QR is the only option, I make the server tell me what's on the menu. I'm an old guy with bad eyes I'm not going to try to read your menu on a 5" phone screen in a dim restaurant.

I too make the server tell me what's on the menu, because I grew up in the 8th century BCE when literacy hadn't yet overtaken the strong oral chanting tradition of preserving and transmitting information, and I believe that the written word is a debasement of human intellect.

If there’s no written menu available what’s the other option?

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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My fuck-you-right-back response is I don't sign up and give up using the app. I had an instagram account and deleted it years ago. I don't want a new one. Sadly instagram is sign up only, so good luck to them and good bye.

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> So you either have to ignore your friends, bore them with your morals or just give in anyway.

Is it really so hard to just say "Gah, sorry, I don't have an IG account"?

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post #38

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Talent isn’t a zero sum game. It takes next to no effort to throw your menu as a photo on google maps for example.

It would be nice if the technology people would stop expecting everyone to cater to them.

You mean market forces that pushes the companies that make their business less accessible?

I personally don’t expect anything. I’ll just not go to places that don’t have information. That’s the market in action.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Talent isn’t a zero sum game. It takes next to no effort to throw your menu as a photo on google maps for example.

That would not have occurred to me as a thing to do. It takes non-zero effort to think of these things in the first place.

Every business needs marketing, even the most basic coffee shop. Maintaining an online presence is just part of running a modern business.

You’re free to not do it, but the market will push you out in favor of businesses that do.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#126

I feel the same burning hate like a thousand suns for FB/Meta, Google/YT and other platforms that monetize their users. But, let's be frank here: They monetize you and me, us, the users because 1 they can and, 2, they have to. Yes, they have to. Imagine they provided access to their platforms for free. How would the shareholders (your retirement funds included) respond when less profit was made? You see, we view them…

> we view them as public utilities

Maybe that is side effect of age. I certainly do not see YouTube that way. Maybe growing up with it is different.

And when they started it seemed like a fools errand—copyright issues, giant costs (OMG, so much money down the drain), no real way to monetize at all at the time.

In other words: giant heap of risk. I had a friend that was a competitor to them (but was more on top of copyright issues, thus their downfall). This was not for the faint of heart, and the exact opposite of a public utility.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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>How would the shareholders (your retirement funds included) respond when less profit was made? At a certain point, who cares? A company can exist indefinitely with any level of long term profit. They don't need to constantly be maximizing profit in the short term which is where these "fuck you" patterns generally arise. We have designed a system that has convinced everyone to never be satisfied or say they have enou…

A nonprofit that wasn't a publicly traded company would a viable alternative model. It wouldn't need to have the same insane up-and-to-the-right incentives and drive to toxic monetization.

It doesn't have to be a nonprofit. There is nothing wrong with turning a profit. The problem is when the company's only goal is ever-increasing profit and they are willing to sacrifice the wellbeing of their employees, customers, and community to achieve it.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Reddit’s mobile web experience really embraces this–even as a logged in user there is a frequent “Use our app!” popup that has been made progressively more obnoxious. Once upon a time there was a preference option to disable the popup, though it would periodically become unchecked on its own. Then the option to disable it disappeared. Then the popup started appearing not just on page load, but after a period of time…

Recently on mobile it's stopped giving me the option to even view the page anonymously, at least for adult content. It gives me: "This is mature content and may not be appropriate for certain viewers. To continue, use the app to confirm you're over 18 and browse anonymously."

I noticed this too! The reddit webapp on mobile was pretty much unusable before and would constantly ask me to download the app. Accidentally visited it a few days ago and was surprised it didn't happen.
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