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The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by mcpackieh »

arrowsmith wrote: post #43
totallywrong wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually stood up and left restaurants when their QR menu sends me to IG.

I wouldn't even make it this far, I'm not scanning their QR. Give me a paper menu or gtfo.

This. I've never scanned a QR code and I don't intend to learn how.

And because the premise of a restaurant not having printed menus available is so absurd, I think I'd be compelled to stick around for a few minutes loudly insulting their business acumen before leaving (as I have done before at bars that didn't accept cash!) I consider this a service done for those who think like me but aren't brave enough to speak out themselves.

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Post by motohagiography »

I only ever look at IG posts that show up in chats as parts of conversations and IG appears to have banned my phone from viewing their content at all. Fine with me, as there is zero chance I will ever create a login on their site anyway, but I tell the people in the chats that IG links don't work for non-users, and so they share less of the content. I call this the, "Fuck me? Fuck you!" pattern.

Nothing quite says "hemorrhaging MAU," like dark patterns to get people to login, and "urgent account information" emails to get those same logins. Someone should take a hard look at those numbers, as I'd suspect they're a bit soft.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by mcpackieh »

tough wrote: post #30
totallywrong wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually stood up and left restaurants when their QR menu sends me to IG.

Hahahaha I was picturing this idea before asking tbh... We sometimes get some customers who hate the QR's, or claim not having phone/signal/whatever. I'll lend them my phone to check...

I'd refuse to touch your phone and insult you for the offer. If you don't have a paper menu the question of me giving you money is already off the table; the food is forgotten and my new mission in your restaurant is to punish you with my vindictive attitude. If enough waitresses complain about obnoxious boomers giving them grief, I think the business owner will eventually wisen up.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by anonymousiam »

janandonly wrote: post #70

I feel the same burning hate like a thousand suns for FB/Meta, Google/YT and other platforms that monetize their users. But, let's be frank here: They monetize you and me, us, the users because 1 they can and, 2, they have to. Yes, they have to. Imagine they provided access to their platforms for free. How would the shareholders (your retirement funds included) respond when less profit was made? You see, we view them…

They can monetize by presenting ads, and they can identify you with cookies when you don't log in (or later when you do). They don't need to restrict their content to monetize. It's more likely that they are restricting their content to prevent scraping and/or indexing.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by EGreg »

SoftTalker wrote: post #72
EGreg wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to shareholder capitalism, extracting rents from all sides of the market perpetually to enrich shareholders. This is why utility tokens were such a big game changer for me. Remember Zuck was an open source bro who turned down M$ for $1M and ended up open sourcing Synapse. He built Wirehog, as a decentralized file sharing network. I was attending TechCrunch Disrupt 2010 in NYC and personally heard Sean Parker…

Do you have a 401k or do any kind of index fund investing? You almost certainly own some Meta shares. Congrats, you're a shareholder.

Nope. I don’t.

Also, hate the game, not the player. Bernie paying 100% taxes isn’t going to solve anything. Neither is a few people going vegan going to solve what happens on factory farms. We need an actual alternative that is good enough so people will switch. What the Impossible Burger is doing for meat eating, https://qbix.com can do for Big Tech exodus.

It happened 25 years ago, when the World Wide Web appeared, content creators very quickly left AOL, Compuserve and all those other walled gardens. In fact, FB, Google and Amazon could only come to exist because the Web was permissionless and didn’t extract rents! We need that again.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by sheepishly »

albert_e wrote: post #39
faangsticle wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Like the archive.ph bypass for soft paywalls on news articles ... Isn't there a website that simple records a GIF of the said tiktok/ IG reel and lets you share that instead?

Don't know about Tiktok, but this site seems to work for IG to some degree:

https://www.picuki.com/

Don't know exactly how much it captures, but you can toss the page it gives you into archive.ph at least.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by sira04 »

faangsticle wrote: post #20
vbo wrote: post #9

My fuck-you-right-back response is I don't sign up and give up using the app. I had an instagram account and deleted it years ago. I don't want a new one. Sadly instagram is sign up only, so good luck to them and good bye.

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I make burner accounts on these platforms for this use case. No profile image, random character usernames. works fine.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by spondylosaurus »

janandonly wrote: post #70

I feel the same burning hate like a thousand suns for FB/Meta, Google/YT and other platforms that monetize their users. But, let's be frank here: They monetize you and me, us, the users because 1 they can and, 2, they have to. Yes, they have to. Imagine they provided access to their platforms for free. How would the shareholders (your retirement funds included) respond when less profit was made? You see, we view them…

Yep, and Reddit in particular is the culmination of over a billion dollars' worth of VC funding. The changes we're seeing are unsurprising when you take that into account—even though Reddit has never been profitable, those investors are still expecting their return, which forces Reddit to either start bringing in serious revenue or have a promising IPO (or both). None of this has ever been for users; we're merely a driver of growth/profit to them.

Investor-backed platforms offer the illusion of "free public utility," but they were never meant to serve us in the first place. Their goal has always been to cash out.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

janandonly wrote: post #70

I feel the same burning hate like a thousand suns for FB/Meta, Google/YT and other platforms that monetize their users. But, let's be frank here: They monetize you and me, us, the users because 1 they can and, 2, they have to. Yes, they have to. Imagine they provided access to their platforms for free. How would the shareholders (your retirement funds included) respond when less profit was made? You see, we view them…

The alternative is OSI or Xanadu with microtransactions for everything and every action tied to an identity.
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