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The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#31

The reason for this (unjustified IMO) is bot/scraping prevention. On most VPNs you cannot browse profiles unless you're logged in. TikTok has a much more elegant solution to this problem (while still being a nightmare for bots/scrapers), with ByteDacne moving bot checks to the client with a mixture of proof of work and fingerprinting.

Can you elaborate on the twitter bot that finger prints?

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#32

I don’t think this is a dark pattern per se. You don’t expect to walk into any restaurant and get free food. With meta products, you pay for content by being tracked. If you refuse to sign in, they refuse to show you content. It’s simple.

I’d say its more like an art gallery where other people provide the content, but fuck you if you aren’t gonna give your privacy up

That has been Meta’s play for a long time. It’s why I don’t use meta products and encourage others to do the same.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#33
post #15

It's most annoying when businesses make IG their actual website, or restaurants have their menus there, etc. I've never been on IG and can't access the content, so they don't get my business.

You can still go to the restaurant to eat presumably they'll have some paper menus in there, or QR's or whatever

> presumably they'll have some paper menus

Increasingly commonly, that's a "nope". If I don't have an internet-connected device capable of dealing with a QR code about my person, eating out is no longer for me. Perhaps it's time to go back to the old people's home, the nurse has been searching for hours.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#34
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can still go to the restaurant to eat presumably they'll have some paper menus in there, or QR's or whatever

Sure, you could also just go to a supermarket. If you don't know what to expect, why risk it?

It was how restaurants worked for a long time. Of course, if you prefer the predictability of seeing the menu before you get there, that’s your preference, fair enough. But I wonder if you might miss out on some places run by cooks who put all their talent into cooking, and none into technology. Could be some good stuff…

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#35
post #27

I think what makes this a "fuck you" pattern is the fact that you are given a "teaser" of the content before being forced to log in. Like, if IG forced you to login to see anything, you might dislike that, but it wouldn't feel manipulative.

I feel like almost every app does this. Pinterest, quora, reddit, Twitter. They’ve all had “features” like this.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#36
post #9

My fuck-you-right-back response is I don't sign up and give up using the app. I had an instagram account and deleted it years ago. I don't want a new one. Sadly instagram is sign up only, so good luck to them and good bye.

Yup, this is how I respond too. While occasionally it leads to missing content I used to enjoy (miss u, /r/dogelore), for the most part I wind up never noticing the absence and having more time in my day. Win win!

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#37

The reason for this (unjustified IMO) is bot/scraping prevention. On most VPNs you cannot browse profiles unless you're logged in. TikTok has a much more elegant solution to this problem (while still being a nightmare for bots/scrapers), with ByteDacne moving bot checks to the client with a mixture of proof of work and fingerprinting.

This is the truth, and part of why almost all content based apps do it now.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, you could also just go to a supermarket. If you don't know what to expect, why risk it?

It was how restaurants worked for a long time. Of course, if you prefer the predictability of seeing the menu before you get there, that’s your preference, fair enough. But I wonder if you might miss out on some places run by cooks who put all their talent into cooking, and none into technology. Could be some good stuff…

Talent isn’t a zero sum game.

It takes next to no effort to throw your menu as a photo on google maps for example.

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

#39
post #9

My fuck-you-right-back response is I don't sign up and give up using the app. I had an instagram account and deleted it years ago. I don't want a new one. Sadly instagram is sign up only, so good luck to them and good bye.

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Like the archive.ph bypass for soft paywalls on news articles ...

Isn't there a website that simple records a GIF of the said tiktok/ IG reel and lets you share that instead?

Re: The 'fuck you' pattern (2021)

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually stood up and left restaurants when their QR menu sends me to IG.

Hahahaha I was picturing this idea before asking tbh... We sometimes get some customers who hate the QR's, or claim not having phone/signal/whatever. I'll lend them my phone to check...

Or you could just print a goddamn paper menu?
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