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The attempt to make things easy to interpret using a nice relative scale ends up in the end make them very opaque to interpret the number itself in any meaningful way.
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I think the problem is that the colors have different meaning. The values in the screenshot for Amsterdam using the NL scale translates to 'insufficient' and while the DE scale translates to 'good' for the same city at the same time. At the very least, it means that a user cannot use these scales for inference without knowing/understanding the technology behind them. This is probably not the intention behind showing…
The colors having different meanings shouldn't come up in typical cases, because who's looking at their air quality map from two different countries? There's also a key to the upper left. It's interesting and well designed IMO. I don't think this actually causes issues for any users.
People that travel. Are you serious?
“I noticed something strange in the iOS weather app” I’ve noticed that the weather app on my iOS, iPadOS, and watchOS all show differing forecasts with all 3 devices within 18” of each other. AQI is just one of the parts of the forecast that I just don’t pay attention too. Around here in the summer, it is always an alert saying don’t go outside
I’m giving up on Apple Weather (despite recently saying it was fine). I got burned this past weekend when painting my deck. Forecast was absolutely clear in the window I needed to paint/dry. Just after I started, forecast changed to nearly 100% rain this wasn’t a case of “oh maybe the chance of rain was wrong”. No, it went from 0 to having a hundred of mile wide storm pass through. The type of storm that doesn’t just…
I've never ever seen air quality in iOS. Probably not available where I live. You guys at least, well, have it.
Seems to cover most of the US, Canada, Mexico. Western Europe is largely present but is missing a handful of countries (Belgium, Luxembourg, Ireland, Switzerland, Austria, Liechtenstein, Portugal, and Iceland). Also covers most of Japan and South Korea and small localized portions of India and China.
In Italy I have noticed that the air quality is usually considered bad only in places that actually have data. For a lot of the places that are considered good, checking the sources for them usually result in only 1 device. It's a nice to have certainly but I wish it was more consistent.
Yup. And if you look closely the underlying map also sometimes changes based on which country one is standing in (Crimea/Taiwan). Services like iOS are not scientific but consumer and government-focused services. They exist to appease a host of interested parties, not to render dispassionate information.
I've never ever seen air quality in iOS. Probably not available where I live. You guys at least, well, have it.
Apple don't have it enabled for all regions, even if Breezometer have data there. (E.g.: looks like they have [fairly good] data here [in Israel], but AQI is disabled in Apple Maps)
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I am curious how reliable that air quality data is in the first place. I cannot find anything about Breezometer having invested in installing air quality meters all around the world. https://www.calcalistech.com/ctechnews/article/sycbrdpbi This article says they are using “machine learning” and “AI”. Makes me think it is all fake. https://www.breezometer.com/pdfs/Ultimate-Guide-to-BreezoMet... Their own documentation…
Yes - it’s much like now weather forecasting works. Data points may come from 2 places 100 mi apart, but what if someone lives between them? Temperature or other weather data is often an extrapolation based on official weather data collection points, and AQI data is no different. How that data gets extrapolated varies wildly by implementation. edit: Also a fun fact, I live 2000ft above and 50mi from the nearest forec…
- AQI strongly varies with local human activities, e.g. a coal power plant in between the 2 places 100 miles appart.
- temporal and hardly predictable human activities, e.g. a chem industry without good attenuation system that boost its production to fill a special command. Or an attenuation system that breaks.
“I noticed something strange in the iOS weather app” I’ve noticed that the weather app on my iOS, iPadOS, and watchOS all show differing forecasts with all 3 devices within 18” of each other. AQI is just one of the parts of the forecast that I just don’t pay attention too. Around here in the summer, it is always an alert saying don’t go outside
I’m giving up on Apple Weather (despite recently saying it was fine). I got burned this past weekend when painting my deck. Forecast was absolutely clear in the window I needed to paint/dry. Just after I started, forecast changed to nearly 100% rain this wasn’t a case of “oh maybe the chance of rain was wrong”. No, it went from 0 to having a hundred of mile wide storm pass through. The type of storm that doesn’t just…
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I think the problem is that the colors have different meaning. The values in the screenshot for Amsterdam using the NL scale translates to 'insufficient' and while the DE scale translates to 'good' for the same city at the same time. At the very least, it means that a user cannot use these scales for inference without knowing/understanding the technology behind them. This is probably not the intention behind showing…
The colors having different meanings shouldn't come up in typical cases, because who's looking at their air quality map from two different countries? There's also a key to the upper left. It's interesting and well designed IMO. I don't think this actually causes issues for any users.
Anyone who travels between countries?