The EU’s fight for user-replaceable smartphone batteries
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#2I have never used a phone (nor a laptop) where the battery wasn't easily replaceable and to be honest I can't really imagine using one. Batteries can (and do) go bad and start expanding. Using a device where the battery isn't easily accessible feels absolutely distressing.
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#3I hope there is a provision in there for laptops as well. All this glued in shit is just another plank in the planned obsolescence strategy.
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#4I think this is fantastic news. It will be interesting to see how it affects the amount of phones that get discarded.
I think the next bottleneck is likely to be software longevity. This has improved a lot lately!
But basically I think phones have now reached a place like laptops and desktops where HW capabilities are stable, and there's no good reason for devices to be obsolete in 5 years any more.
I wonder if regulators said "your software has to get security updates for 10 years" would that be enough to get mobile SoC vendors upstreaming their HW support and Google streamlining the Android update process? (To Google's credit they have already done a _lot_ of positive work in that area as I understand it).
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#5I have never used a phone (nor a laptop) where the battery wasn't easily replaceable and to be honest I can't really imagine using one. Batteries can (and do) go bad and start expanding. Using a device where the battery isn't easily accessible feels absolutely distressing.
Which goes to show that the option is there and people don't take it because they simnply don't want it so this regulation is the EU being the EU.
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#6I have never used a phone (nor a laptop) where the battery wasn't easily replaceable and to be honest I can't really imagine using one. Batteries can (and do) go bad and start expanding. Using a device where the battery isn't easily accessible feels absolutely distressing.
Which goes to show that the option is there and people don't take it because they simnply don't want it so this regulation is the EU being the EU.
The option is there indeed, although I'm not sure if the general population would be happy with e.g. an Openmoko phone back when I already was :P
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#8I have never used a phone (nor a laptop) where the battery wasn't easily replaceable and to be honest I can't really imagine using one. Batteries can (and do) go bad and start expanding. Using a device where the battery isn't easily accessible feels absolutely distressing.
Which goes to show that the option is there and people don't take it because they simnply don't want it so this regulation is the EU being the EU.
Disagree. First, the devices with removable batteries are exceedingly rare right now. They also often enough are niche products. Second, it is not reasonable to expect every consumer to always think about what is right, and not instead to follow what marketing tells him to buy. This is exactly what regulations are good for and historically have solved.
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#9Iphone battery is already pretty close to replaceable by this law.
You need a common tool to get in (trident screwdriver is available in most DIY shops), then glue tabs can be pried by hand.
Doable for layman? Well, some people are afraid of opening up a device in any way. How do we (or, rather, lawyers) draw a line?
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#10I hope there is a provision in there for laptops as well. All this glued in shit is just another plank in the planned obsolescence strategy.
Glue and soldering. Modern laptops aren't upgradable anymore.